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Old 12-18-2012, 07:35 PM  
bhutocracy
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Originally Posted by kane View Post
I'm not arguing that evolution itself is blind faith. Animals are always evolving. Last I checked, and I'm no scientist by any stretch of the imagination, they have yet to explain exactly how humans came to be. We share DNA with apes, but I'm not aware of them ever discovering that missing link.

Evolution aside, the blind faith part comes from the big bang. You have to just believe that this stuff existed and exploded and created the universe. We have no proof that this is how it occurred. We have theories, but no hard fact in that case.

All the science aside, and I am likely blame for bringing it up, it doesn't really change the fact that I believe atheism is a form or religion. Maybe that is how I should have stated it to begin with. I feel that atheism is a religion. You may not. It's a free country.
You can feel what you like, just letting you know that why you're wrong and why the two things aren't the same. I can't dissaude someone from an erroneous notion if they want to hold it. *shrugs*

Also they've found countless missing links. Think about it for a moment. Every generation is a "missing link" if you want to be bloody minded about it so there a couple of hundred thousand different missing links. When you find a new one you almost create a Zeno's paradox on each side of it. I really don't even know the purpose of bringing that up is.. Are you trying to say the fact that humans evolved from a common ancestor to other apes has been proved with multiple missing links and mitochondrial DNA studies? If so congratulations, you're correct. If you're trying to say we don't know exactly what happened, day by day by reading their diaries and fb pages from 6 million years ago the exact path our ancestors took out of Africa.. I'd say... So? It's 100% proved it happened (or 99.99% if you want to be pedantic and not let me round up), that we're only x% sure when and what route it took is interesting but not especially applicable to anything other than arguments over competing theories for how the fact happened. Bring it up in an argument about when our ancestors left Africa, what route they took, when speciation occured and so forth. I've never really understood fetishizing the small things we don't know over the large things we do know.

If I pay a thousand people to each drive a mile and tell the next person to drive a mile to tell the next person to drive a mile until the 999th person tells the 1000th person to drive up to your door, knock on it and slap you in the face when you open it.. What is the salient point? That some asshole paid a thousand people to prove a point or that the 135th person took the jersey turnpike instead of the gateway?

Also you might have heard of the large hadron collider and it's recreation of the environment after the big bang (and it's possible detection of big bang material, ie proof)

Anyway, this is just another long way of repeating again the point that fact based beliefs aquired after testable scientific enquiry cannot be equated to blind faith. I wish we didn't live in a choose-your-own-facts society but apparantly we do so I won't spend any more time explaining it when you obviously have your mind made up about it.
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