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Originally Posted by kane
A religion is simply a set of principles or beliefs that you have faith in. If you believe that there is no god then there are some kind of principles that you believe in and have faith in that lead you have this position.
Being an evolutionist requires as much blind faith as being religious. You have to believe that there was all this stuff just floating around in the ether, where it came from nobody knows, but one day Stuff A collided with Stuff B and Stuff C and they exploded. Our piece of debris happened to fall into orbit at the right distance from our sun so that over billions of years it was able to create an environment that was suitable to creating life and slowly over time we crawled out of the organic soup and became what we are. There is a lot of faith in there. Maybe it isn't the same as believing there is an all powerful being that just was and from it came nobody knows and it created everything, but it is belief never the less.
So, you have beliefs or principles which lead you to believe that there is no god. We are just an animal. When we die that is the end. You have faith in those beliefs. Belief + faith = religion.
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Nope, you pretty much just flamed out there. Evolution is a capital "F" Fact. It is a Fact that evolution occurs. There is no faith neccessary at all. What you are calling faith (and btw callously insulting those who have faith and believe faith in the devine is special) is the same thing as not walking off a tall building because you have "faith" that the theory of gravity will cause you to fall. Both falling from buildings and evolution are facts. The theory part is the mechanism involved, so while scientists may argue over punctuated equilibrium in evolution or the mechanism of gravity, they don't argue over the fact of evolution or that you fall off buildings.
If you want to change the meaning of words go ahead but it has no bearing on reality or the argument. To get to the larger point of accepting abiogenisis, as I mentioned in the previous post, they've already demonstrated how it occurs up to RNA. The "belief" required isn't the same kind or quality as wholesale belief in something completely untestable, Ie it's not blind. If you could prove god or an invisible unicorn the way we are proving that life originated here chemically than it wouldn't require blind faith in god and I would be withholding all judgement as the scientists got on with proving god. God is untestable, abiogenisis is testable. You're making a category error. Belief + fact != religion.