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Originally Posted by Relentless
I really have no interest in rehashing the Bush years because I don't see how they are relevant to the 2012 fiscal cliff discussion. However, I am sure 100 years from now when historians write the final analysis of what went on they will come to the conclusion that Bill Clinton getting a blowjob from an intern was a major tipping point in the fall of the West. The W years were horrifically bad economically, diplomatically, domestically and militarily. None of that excuses the slow cleanup or gives Obama amnesty if things still suck in 2016 when his term ends... but on the long list of Presidents we have ever had, it seems fairly safe to say that both Bush and Obama will be ranked in the bottom 5th and other than Grant I can't recall anyone historically who was worse than W while in office.
If you really want to do yet another Bush Presidency Postmortem we ought to do it in another thread... because it has zero to do with the fiscal cliff. 
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We should of course worry about the problems in front of us, but brushing away the past is a great mistake. While many of the posts you have made recently in this topic make sense one thing I always notice is Republicans are always very fast to brush away the past when it's something to do with their mistakes meanwhile they will trumpet til the end if it's someone else mistake.
Obama didn't create the problems he faces today and while he might not have done everything prefect, he sure as hell hasn't had any help at all from the right wing in trying top fix the problems this country faces. Meaning blaming him for this is a bunch of bullshit because the Senate & House are the real problems because of their inability to get anything done.
Trying to say Obama hasn't done much in his first 4 years is really not looking at the whole picture. I mean seriously he is dealing with House & Senate Republicans that will do anything to block everything no matter what it is. Doesn't matter if it's good or bad for the country they try to obstruct it.
Just yesterday, Mitch McConnell the Republican Senate minority leader filibustered his own fucking bill. He proposed a bill the democrats agreed to pass it and he instead filibustered it.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...-feint/266035/
The bill was of course bullshit so the Senate Dem's called him on his bullshit and left him with mud on his face.
If you guys want to bitch about Obama by all means do so, but I don't know how anyone can say with a straight face he is the one hurting this country, when he has to deal with a House & Senate's Republican members that don't appear to care if this country fails or not.