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Originally Posted by Minte
People that are educated like yourself understand that Obama is posturing. However, there is not much time left to negotiate a deal. If the two sides are this far apart publically, the odds get slimmer every day that a deal will get cut.C onsider the make up of the house. There are a lot of people there that are in that $250k and up salary level. If I were there as a representive I might just say fuck him(Obama). No deal and walk. It's Obamas side that has more to lose if a deal isn't cut. So I lose my seat in the house at the next election. Big deal. I could convince myself I tried my best and it just wasn't enough, This country is more divided than it was during Vietnam. Obama won by 3 million votes. That's less than 1% so these people here that are saying he won a mandate don't really understand that the mandate is smoke and mirrors. Take out the illegal aliens and Romney would've won. Obama does not have the support from the people that are important in this economy. Coming out to negotiate like this is only hardening his opposition.
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All true but for one key point you are forgetting... Obama, Romney, the Dems and the GOP are all funded by exactly the same people. Yes, the Unions favor one over the other and the Koch brothers favor one over the other... but for the most part they get the same money from Goldman Sachs, the Billionaires and the meaningful CEOs. That crowd sits down together often enough and so do the politicians behind closed doors.
My strong suspicion is that a deal has already been cut, including detailed policy changes AND the way in which the deal will be announced, packaged, sold to low ranking politicians and to the public. Obama, Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Pelosi, and their cronies already have the deal in their pocket in pencil. They may even have discussed Obama making outlandish requests for 1.6T in taxes just so they could save face by saying "we got him down to 900B and that was the best we could do."
If I'm right it will be capped deductions, a much smaller tax increase than you expect, a buffet rule, roughly equal budget cuts (mostly from the military) AND they already know the details but don't want to make it seem like the GOP caved too easily or that Obama wimped out.
They all have the same masters. We no longer have a true 2 party system.
