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Old 11-29-2012, 06:06 AM  
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Originally Posted by MaDalton View Post
see, that is exactly what i mean...

whenever someone criticizes Russia you start leaping out against everyone else.
Very nice position: "let's criticize Russia, but please don't tell anything about my country". Sorry but this won't fly. If you are criticizing another country, prepare to hear the critics on yours.

When you told me that "democracy" and "free speech" in Russia has a different meaning, you have compared it with other countries:
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i am not interested in another heated discussion about that, but i have not heard in my lifetime that someone actually got sentenced for either defaming the church or having sex in public. maybe a fine, maybe in the absolut worst case probation but in Germany no one goes to jail for either of that.
So you have compared my country with Germany and I gave you a quote from the German Criminal Code, which proves that your own Law on Defamation of religions, religious and ideological associations is not better, or even worse.

Why every time when you are starting to criticize Russia (I guess you haven't even been there) and going to compare it with other countries like Germany (note the quote from your own post above), you are getting so nervous when I say "Ok, let's compare Russia with Germany". What's wrong with that?

Man, there is no "democracy" or "free speech". Both are fairy tales for naive people. Some countries are more fucked up with this, other with that. They all are not ideal. The world is not black and white. There is a countless number of shades of gray. Thus it's very stupid to believe into the one-sided news you are reading/watching. The Pussy Riot's story has at least two "truths" and you know only one of them (you can't read the Russian sources, right?) That's not enough for a normal discussion.
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