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Old 11-13-2012, 11:14 PM  
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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 View Post
You have so far totally ignored what is easily the biggest and most widely used source of stolen content, so its an entirely reasonable question given your vague talk of 'expansion'.
This issue has been addressed many times, I have spent an adequate amount of time placing on the public record why we chose file lockers to start with, I suggest you read up on it.

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Originally Posted by davethedope View Post
I cant get passed the fact an organization like copycontrol is necessary in theory, however, it seems like it should be organized not as an enterprise, but as a voluntary association, with voluntary donations or dues with privilages, with transparent record keeping.
I've been down this path twice before, the first time was in June 2011 when I tried to get people involved in a non profit association to fight all forms of piracy. In the end I managed to get around three people on board and it fizzled entirely.

The second time was this year within the scope of the Stop File Lockers project. The insurmountable problem is that people have good intentions but just don't have the time to invest in the required work to get such an organisation to fly.

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Originally Posted by SplatterMaster View Post
I don?t think it works that way. The way I see it, you still use the same process you have been using for takedown. You?re just adding CC to the loop. CC wont seek out content and send DMCA.
I could be wrong though.
Correct, I dealt with this in the OP. Representation by Copy Control is not a replacement for your current DMCA arrangements, rather it's complimentary to them.

We do very different things all with the aim of shutting down the site on which deliberate commercial infringement exists or mitigating further infringement where site owners legitimately didn't know infringement was occurring.

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit View Post
It's a good idea. Just a suggestion. Consider offering some free services to very small content owners as a gesture of goodwill and to get your foot in the door. These are the ones getting screwed the most because they lack the resources to fight back. I bet many would appreciate it and you both can hopefully grow your businesses together where they can become paying customers.
I'd encourage very small rights holders to get in touch with us as we're bending over backwards to ensure that financial considerations don't stop anyone from getting represented.

If you have a cash flow issue or cannot afford to spend any more in a very tight market then contact us at members -at- copycontrol.org and we'll work with you to get you covered.

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 View Post
If you're saying what I think you are, I agree. An association is needed, not another seemingly private enterprise (all of which, of course, have an obvious interest in not stopping what they're being paid to stop), and porn in general should start looking at how other industries operate, as well as start to take a more zero tolerance attitude generally towards shady practices in the industry.
Where were you last year when this was tried before ? Where were you this year when we were asking for volunteers to help us get all this going ? It's really easy to talk on a forum, if you're willing to put your money where your mouth is get in touch with me.
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