Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

I have owned a few small businesses, I was never rich, and no matter how much money came in, it was going right back out. I could have made just as much working for someone else without having the headache of responsibility. but I did supply 4 to 6 people with a job that they actually enjoyed. I'd rather work at a place I like and make less $, than work somewhere I had to force myself to go into work for a check... I don't consider myself a job creator, Just a entrepreneur.

I think both need to happen. If a company has one thousand employees and doesn't pay taxes on the company there are still taxes being paid from those one thousand employees.
People are not making as much money as before, yet we are all being taxed to death!