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Originally Posted by Three.Thousand
Ive tried and tested submitting to tubes, its a big joke. Even though it is the obvious, at least i got some numbers out of it to back it up, the winners of the model:
1. tube owner (obviously)
2. advertiser
3. ...
4. ..
5. .
99. the content producer
As a content producer you MIGHT make a sale, the owner WILL make money and the advertiser will most likely make money if its not his first shot at it. The ratio is horrible, anyone saying different must be lying (if not, good for you!). The best option is the model paidperview has gone with (big credit to them, good job!), but the traffic per video is does not justify the time and effort spent on it. The only tubes worth while submitting to is the very top ones, pornhub, xhamster etc.
Now, if you instead were to submit your content to piracy forums, you would probably make more from selling file locker accounts from it (revhsare, or even pp download) , and getting paid per thumbnail view on image hosts. Havnt tried it but im SURE, that will bring in more money than tubes.
you know the industry is fucked up when the pirates will make you more money from YOUR content, than the industry itself.
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Your words about the old style affiliates versus the new pro-pirate affiliates are spot on. I've considered the same thing myself and I believe if it continues on like this and with ctr and ratios increasing along with many sponsors screwing over affiliates a lot of the old style affiliates are going to move to pro-piracy models further decimating the adult paysite industry. It's already happening among some of the affiliates who haven't made a lot under the traditional model. They crossed over because they have little to lose.
Regarding content programs I don't think many people realize that you're almost guaranteed to see diminishing returns over time for it. There's typically an inverse relationship between how much content you share and your pay site sales ratio. If there weren't this inverse relationship everyone on this forum would be filthy rich. So what is going to happen is that eventually you are going to paint yourself in a corner by giving away all this full scene content. You will have no where to go because you won't be able to get your old ratios from before you dumped the content all over the net back.
But as another poster said the whole thing is like a ponzi scheme for everyone. Even the tube owner. At some point it will all collapse. Ad revenues will plummet when no one is buying anymore because it's all available for free. Some tube owners will face the shutdown point where it's costing them more to run the site than they are taking in from ads. Many more will find themselves in a position where they are making 1/3 or even 1/10th of what they are now as the revenues collapse and competition heats up.