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Old 11-01-2012, 09:11 PM  
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On December 19, 2008, a week after Republicans in the Senate had killed a bailout bill proposed by Democrats, saying it didn?t impose big enough wage cuts on the U.A.W., Bush unilaterally agreed to lend $17.4 billion of taxpayers? money to General Motors and Chrysler, of which $13.4 billion was to be extended immediately. He had to twist the law to get the money. Deprived of congressional funding, he diverted cash from the loathed TARP program, which Congress had already passed, but which was supposed to be restricted to rescuing the banks. ?I didn?t want there to twenty-one-per-cent unemployment,? he said to a meeting of the National Automobile Dealers Association in Las Vegas last month, explaining why he acted as he did. ?I didn?t want history to look back and say, ?Bush could have done something but chose not to do it.? ?

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http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...to-makers.html

So risk $17.4 billion already out there or get them back on their feet and work on getting that money back?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-says-auto-co/

GM still has about a $25 billion liability to taxpayers and our equity in the company is worth half that right now. GM was number 1 in the world in auto sales in 2011 though... some of that thanks to the earthquake in Japan, but the company is still strong again.

So the rough math in my head says that if we liquidated our GM holdings out of close to $90 billion about $15 billion or so would be lost if we backed out today. Meanwhile 2 of the 3 companies in the largest manufacturing segment in our economy didn't go under.
Yes Bush got 17 billion for GM, Obama upped it to 85 billion and the treasury expects to lose 23 billion.
Oh and GM is not the largest, Volkswagon is

Volkswagen?s 8.16-million figure doesn?t include sales from commercial truck divisions MAN and Scania, according to Automotive News. If the manufacturer added those, it would significantly boost their overall numbers.

?On top of that, GM?s sales figure was padded with about one million sales by Chinese automakers SAIC Motor Corp. and Wuling Motors Co. ? companies with which GM has joint ventures, but in which the American company does not have a controlling stake,? reports Motor Trend.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obam...is-number-one/
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that
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