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Good i'm Glad my reply wasnt attack and even more happy that others share the same vision
My point was simple : ratios are just ratios, they dont mean nothing without explanation...
for sure on our best programs if I push Usa traffic to a niche that fit well the source, well yes i will be under 1 : 500
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Originally Posted by Far-L
I keep telling you guys we need to talk.
You may have tested everyone else but you didn't test us.
Thanks for adding to the discussion btw. With oversight of that much traffic tested on that many sites I think you pretty much carry the conch at will on this subject.
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True, we did'nt yet and I will try to include that one day in upcoming tests..
Ill do something, ill test all people that tell me that I will do 1 : 500 and under with them But, I'ill post the results one day
for the best and the worst !!!
One more thing, if someone is so sure, that he convert 1 :500 on a good T1 traffic, well if the payout is lets say 35$, well prepay me some sign up for 10 000 hits.. ill be fine with 30$ , keep the extra 5$
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Originally Posted by Kelli58
Even the big boys are suffering when it comes to conversion ratios. This economy has hurt all companies no matter how big or small.
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Exactly no easy money
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Originally Posted by Roald
100 sales at 1:500!!!
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Congrats, What are you winning again ?
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Originally Posted by PAR
You want STATS but you want no qualitative data?
Numbers without meaning are meaningless....
I mean really I can screen cap accounts that do less than 1:10
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That exactly why i did a post in this topic,, and explain how i see ratio with a classic media buy, a ratio without any parameters means nothing at all
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Originally Posted by Kenny B!
Axel great post, I'm sure you could teach us a ton!
PAR you're so right, a site doing 1:500 with no trial might convert at 1:200 with a $1 trial, and then how does that site rebill? Are there xsells etc. etc.
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Thanks Kenny, i love numbers and stats , i dont have the chance to see that much chicks, so i need to find my numbers sexy
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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody
Some great posts in this thread!
I do agree some parameters need to be set when discussing "ratios". Many factors exist (as has been pointed out here by more knowledgeable and seasoned minds than mine).
But my feeling is that while many factors do indeed exist for traffic/ratios, a webmaster or program who's been around for awhile will have "whittled down" what works for them and what doesn't. So, in the end, whatever sources they've stuck with, does it end up being 1:500 or better?
I ask this also because what if ratios are really 1:1000 or higher? How high can ratios go (or how far can they dip) before a program or affiliate says "fuck it" and moves on to selling shoes?
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Yes again, many factors will influence, i dont expect to do the same ratio with Usa than Pakistan, give me 1 : 3000 in Pakistan and ill be very happy.
If you buy the traffic, for sure cant be too lazy and patient with bad converting programs
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Originally Posted by adultmobile
Ok for conversion, but the rebillings stats?
Some sites got so high % of rebillings that the rebillings it is bigger money than new conversions - or vice-versa some sites hardly get any rebilling. This should be considered too.
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Good point. The payout MATTERS. Many HIGH PPS offer tends to have bad ratio... nobody can give 200$ PPS is the sign up are too easy
But stillm a 200$ PPS with a 1 : 2000 ratio is better then a 30$ pps at 1 :500 (on the same source and equal CTR)
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Originally Posted by The Ghost
Agree with those posted overall $$$ is the most important thing; not $$$ per click or an arbitrary ratio. Weighing how something REALLY sells and how sticky it is to your surfers. For example if you have something on your site that is clicked ALOT more than something else, but might not have the best ratio is better than something clicked less with a better ratios.
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Good point again, and yes the CTR matters (and the epc, ecpm)
On a CPM campaign, i will try to get more click as possible ( but the still have to be relevant) because i dont want to burn traffic and want to maximise my impressions
And if i put have a high CTR banner vs a low ctr banner, i have good chance to do more money with the high one (not always tho) but the ratios will not look good has the low ctr... so ratios doesnt matters, its earning per impressions at the end
On a CPC campaign, i will try to have higher quality click, more relevant, and i will not use the same kind of banner as cpm campaign. If i put high CTR banner just to drag clicks but the LP is not similar to the banner, i will again burn traffic and again its the earning per clicks that does matter
PS : watch out, some sponsors count ratio differently, they count further in the conversions processus to make look them better, i will not tell names, do your homeworks and find a way to double check the stats on your side