[QUOTE=Cherry7;19252142][QUOTE=Paul Markham;19251198]. But touch a willing model and it was as if I had committed the ultimate sin.
Here's a few cents for the guys who think like this.

Use them to.
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When a model is hired does she know that she is expected to be "touched" by the "photographer" ?
Is the there a special rate and level?
"I do solo girl and allow groping by the photographer"
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Cherry maybe you and Rickard are doing it wrong. Most of the top pornographers, have affairs with, date, fuck models. In fact of all the shooters I know I can't think of one that doesn't. Some ended up marrying them. They have all been far more successful than you or Rickard are.
You think of it as groping, maybe that's where you're wrong. Because it doesn't matter a flying fuck what you think or any of the keyboard clowns here think.
It's all about what the models think.
If she thinks it's wrong, being groped, being imposed on or anything negative it makes us unable to get the scene out of them we require in order to sell it to people who pay far more than you will ever get for a scene.
What you don't understand and never will because I doubt if you can do it, is the girls think it's fine. Only losers who can't charm a girl think we need to force them. I turn on the charm with models, then I turn her on to me, before I turn on anything else. That's where you're going wrong. You turn them off with telling them how clever you are, it bores them. And yes they do talk to me still and about the shooters they work for.