Originally Posted by tony286

Im curious you have this big factory, very successful but have time or the need to come on here. Do the people in the your mainstream industry not like you or something?
I assume your intelligent so you know the answer isnt about the 2.8 million its all about scope.

Originally Posted by Relentless

I promise you, the majority of people who paid 2.8 million is taxes didn't start from zero. I have a lot more respect for Fred Trump, who built a multimillion dollar fortune from nothing, than for Donald the loudmouth son he handed that fortune to. I have an incredible amount of respect for self-made wealth that comes from building something or accomplishing something that benefits society. Steve Jobs is the best modern example of that. I also find it very interesting that self-made successful people almost universally understand hard work is a key ingredient, but other factors are equally or even more important in their own success. Timing, aptitude, luck, the contributions of others all play an important role. Conversely, trust-funders, like Romney, almost universally feel a sense of entitlement to success and an unrealistic egotistical notion that even if they were born in the Sudan to poor illiterate parents they would have ended up earning just as much in life.

You can make billions of dollars and live a lavish lifestyle with the complete respect of this nation. You can inherit a few million, act like an asshat and be met with derision. Those two paths are not the same. One of the biggest cultural problems we face on a societal level is that hard working wealthy people, who have a lot in common with hard working poor people, are instead siding with trust-founders and elitist inheritors who are nothing like them. If the problems facing our country include a sense of 'entitlement' that has to be counted at the top and the bottom alike.

Jon Stewart rightly pointed out last night that the tax code allowing Romney to pay 14% rather than 30% on his income was a 4+ million dollar subsidy. One that is equivalent to giving him food stamps until the year 4080. Romney, Paris Hilton, Exxon, Banks too big to fail - these entities are nothing like Hershey or Bill Gates who earned billions and put value back into the system. If you think Romney's 2 million dollar tax bill was a big contribution to our society, consider the fact that it was much less than the combined payroll and corporate taxes Kaybee Toy And Hobby would have paid into the system last year if he had not forced it into bankruptcy via leveraged buyout and bustout. He didnt add to our economy... He subtracted from it for a living. It's hard to earn the respect of hard working Americans by screwing them over and then telling thm your tax subsidy entitlements are good while the food stamps and unemployment benefits you helped put them on are bad.