Originally Posted by pompousjohn

TMM John tried to explain it. There other types of programs besides the revshare and PPS programs that seem to comprise about 99% of what we see. Additionally there are PPC, PPL and Pay Per Active programs that do not pay anything on a join, but rather on click or on an email submit or on conversion of a trial join. This option is intended for those kinds of programs.

If you are not being paid for a join, it is essentially none of your business how many there are. Sure it would be helpful to know, but if the program doesn't want to tell you, you cant make them, and Nats does not force them to UNLESS they are paying per join.

For a PPC program, you don't always want your affiliates to know what percentage of their clicks are turning into joins, because they may use that information to filter out higher quality traffic and send it to a PPS program and only send the crap to PPC.

It's the same reason PPS programs often hide rebills. If you find your more targetted members are retaining for years, you may switch that traffic to revshare and leave only the less retaining traffic on PPS.

I still think this one program in question was being sneaky by doing this, I am guessing they have been raped by scammy chat traffic from the Philipines and made that program to discourage and de-incentivise fake signups. They should have redesigned their programs payouts before launching it to honest webmasters.