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Old 09-17-2012, 03:44 PM  
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Originally Posted by TMM_John View Post
I'll sneak in here once (and probably regret it).

Hide Joins has been an option in NATS for a long time, it is a per program (i.e. payout structure) setting. It has never been hidden/etc, and is well documented. It is not shady in any way (sorry to disappoint the trolls).

This feature co-exists with hide rebills as there are certain program structures where showing the join/rebill numbers is not effective.

For instance, if you are operating a per-click program, you often would not want to show the number of joins on the traffic, only the click count & the revenue earned from those clicks. (A bit dated of an example at this point).

If you wanted a program, as the subject of this thread did, which pays dependent upon rebills and does not on joins, you may not want to show the join count, but only the rebill count and the revenue from rebills.

If you operate a per join program, you very often do not wish to show the rebill count, only the join count and the revenue generated by those joins. Thus, a hide rebills option for that program (payout structure) is needed.

If you operate a per free registration program (common in dating), you very often will want to show the number of free registrations and the revenue generated from them, but not the number of joins (paid upgrades) generated, so you would need a hide joins option in that case.

These are a few quick examples of why this feature exists. Of course, a program does not have to enable it (I believe Caribbean flavor has decided not to from now on). If a program wishes to show you the number of paid joins your free registrations generated to allow you to better decide on promoting the paid per free program or the pay per signup program, that is their decision.

This is not a "shave feature" as it is not hiding shaved joins, it is simply not displaying the information irrelevant to the program (payout structure) selected.
Let's say a program uses traditional 50/50 revshare where they pay on initials and rebills. Let's say in theory a program owner were to manually toggle "HIDE JOINS", "HIDE REBILLS", plus "Retro-active Payout" as well as change the payout options so that the affiliate did not get credit or get shown any joins or rebills for an eight hour period. In other words, say the sponsor toggled these options at noon and then changed them back to normal at 8pm.

Is this possible? And what notifications would the affiliate see for this? What in theory would give a sponsor doing this away? How can the affiliate protect themselves against this?

Thanks for your time. I hope you understand I'm not trolling you but asking questions relevant to my business.
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