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Originally Posted by TheSquealer
I need to start to appreciate the fact that I have to stand in line behind 20 broke fucking idiots buying lottery tickets instead of groceries, every time I walk into a gas station to get something to drink. Of course, we all agree that people need help... except no one seems to mind taking a poor persons money by encouraging them to gamble against impossible odds with government lotteries... then encourage that behavior with 8 figure marketing campaigns.
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Nobody minds? I'm surprised you do, I thought objecting to the lottery rackets would be considered "socialist". I would have them banned outright, like ponzi schemes and other scams are.
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When is being poor the poor persons fault?
Never? Really? There aren't any low life douchebags that make shitty decisions? There aren't any young women having 6 kids before 25 years old and raising them as a single mother?
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It's not a case of never, obviously there are exceptions, but it's also not a case of "always", which seems to be the right-wing stance. And is it really the fault of the person bringing up the kid, rather than the deadbeat who abandons both of them?
If not, then instead of scapegoating single-moms, it should be recognized what an important job it is they're doing, for society. And if they can't do it adequately, because no father is there to help them, then everything should be done by the rest of society to help them, because helping them helps their child become a normal, functioning member of that society.
If the society stops giving a shit about people, abandons them because - for whatever reason - they're in a mess or need help, then how do you expect them to behave? What incentive is there for them to contribute to a society that doesn't give a shit about them?
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There aren't any drug dealers that just like being drug dealers? There aren't any people drawing state/federal funds just because they can? Interesting. I always assumed the situation was more complex than it is.
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If you think it's more complex why are you attempting to simplify it to a few basic strawmen arguments that I haven't made? I'm sure there are people who like being dealers, because there is always going to be a criminal element in society. However we can also look at what things should and should not be crimes. If drugs were legalized, and the supply controlled, then how many people would be out there dealing?
There's no problem admitting that a tiny minority of people are 'bad' in a society, but unless that's all you're saying why bother mentioning it? Problem is many people cite the tiny minority of bad apples and use it as evidence that everyone they have an axe to grind about is the same.
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According to most, anyone who rents 24" wheels for their 1500.00 car is just a victim of circumstance... .not a fucking retard. I always assumed the opposite. I see how I was wrong.
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Again, I seriously doubt that accounts for more than a tiny minority of poor people. And if people are being led to believe that what they own (or can show off) equals 'success' then it's not 100% their fault if they feel pressured or influenced into buying shit like that.
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I am 100% for helping people that can be helped.
I am 100% opposed to the idea that everyone can be helped if you just throw money at them.
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I'm 100% opposed to using a tiny minority of people to draw conclusions about the majority.