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Originally Posted by notjoe
There is no incentive for the adult industry to support this. The truth is that they would not see any return on their investment. What you're really doing is helping out the million/billion dollar companies such as Adobe, Microsoft, etc as well as recording labels and film companies. I'm not entirely sure why you would expect the adult industry to fight for the mainstream businesses, who have money.
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It is true that adult indistry is smaller money than software and mainstream movie & music, and so that stopping file lockers save more money to mainstream than to adult. Mainstream it can be powerful to send FBI kick the ass of a megaupload, or change some laws in government. Eventually adult industry is more effective in a "fast change name and accounts" battle scenario, being more trollish and hackish, and so efficient in doing whois history in domains, treceroutes to see who hosts what, find hidden links and publish private ICQ chats or emails.
I would however remind the program owners, that they lost a lot of "affiliates" as these, instead of put our promo samples with links to the pay site as they was doing a few years ago, are lately uploading the full site rips to a file locker, waiting for commissions on who buy faster access to such files. This simply brings more money to the "affiliate", no matter he is indian or western, because their site contains the full content and so gets more free traffic, returning users and bookmarks than a site with only 5 min clips. Further, with PayPal as payment option, more people are likely to buy than with ccbill or epoch.
So for noobs see the unfair competition of the 2 cases:
1) Affiliate gets promo tool from pay site, that's 5 min clips, and links that to the pay site. The 5 min clips in his site are too short to have people bookmark or return there so his traffic is smaller. Users can't use paypal popular option to buy on the pay site.
2) Affiliate gets full dvd/site rip (or live cam shows rip) from somewhere. Uploads the whole in a file locker under his affilaite account, and put those updates in a blog or so. His traffic grows automagically because of full content for free, bookmark and returning users maximized. User can use paypal popular option to buy to file locker for faster downloads.
For the 2), additionally there is money it can be made with url hide/redirect and hosted thumbnail images. These make finally the money with advertising, and here it comes the advertising networks...
In fact, there are some free image hosters where 80% of its images are simply vidcaps screenshop previews of the full site/dvdrip, and it pays commissions for traffic sent to see such previews. Also the url hide/redirect, this is an extra step before reach the file locker url, it both keep safe the file locker link from being found in google search on the pirate site that links to it, and pays who use it because it opens extra sdverts.
The url hide/redirect and screencaps hosters can pay because displaying advertising, that someone buys, for example casino, or "you win something" scam and so on.
As questioned in other thread, some time there's banners in the main pirate site itself too.
So the advertising it is yet another big income flow for pirate sites, especially torrent ones, as they do not even host anything big, being p2p, so can rely only in advertising and not in paypal's of file lockers or so.
In other words, the file lockers + pirate adverts (image host + url redirect + banner networks), are a way to do more money for an "affiliate" than a legitimate adult site/blog with official promo tools linking to official pay site.