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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Manhattan
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Originally Posted by adultmobile
My sentence it is about the average people in the street, and the law. If you don't tell them, previously: this is art, and certify it by show the author in a museum... they just think Schiele it is porn drawing made by some kid or pervert. Try showing Schiele dirty stuff to random people does not know it is Schiele and you don't tell them too.
Years ago I made some web design software, and as sample images in examples there was some Modigliani painting too (it was before 2004 , when a movie about him it was made: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367188/ ), and some teacher wrote me this sample (as well as others with naked angels butts from 1600 italian church painting?) was inappropriate for kids so she could not teach my software in her web design class.
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I can easily see how something like that could happen but I really don't feel as if the ignorant should be the ones who are granted the privilege of deciding where exactly it is that the porn/non-porn line exists. We are the deciders. Fuck them. Definitely an interesting debate, though, that's for sure.
I still can't get over what these two Koons paintings sold for at Christies. Freaking crazy.
Wolfman | Red Butt
So when well known artist does a few hardcore paintings of himself fucking his porn star wife, it's almost universally accepted within the art world as being art whereas that very same art world tends to label the non-hardcore work of photographers like Richard Avery or Bret Michael Nelson as being porn. I think that's fucked up and it really pisses me off. Anyway, Richard Avery has a really great take on labeling.
OK, here?s where I get to vent a bit about the work I create. I wanna keep this simple at to the point.
I get asked a lot if what I do is porn or erotica. Is it art? Is it erotic fashion? I hate labels and I hate being put in a box. I hate when people need to throw a label on something they don?t understand. I hate when people with NO talent, NO vision and NO skills need to project their thoughts onto my work. It?s tough to be an artist when people with all of those NOes drag you down ? though obviously, since you?re a Juliland member, you aren?t one of those bloated sacks of protoplasm.
Everyone these days need to label everything so they can categorize and organize everything. Back the fuck off!
If you wanna label, if you need to label my work? Just call it fun! That?s what I call it and that?s why I do it. Sex, grrls, pussy, tits, naked, nasty, fucking, masturbation, kissing and so on is just that? FUN! My life is all about capturing the fun and having fun with it! We do not call shoots work, we call them playtime for a reason! It?s all about the fun and if it?s not going to be fun then I am NOT showing up! Ask any grrl who works with me. We play, get nasty and make art! Just keep it simple and I think the results speak for themselves.
So, in conclusion? Fuck labels! Fuck stupid people and their lame opinions.ha Fuck me for having too much fun with the best grrls in the world. I win again! Boo ya!
http://richardaveryphoto.com/substance-style/
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Originally Posted by myjah
Hit it on the nose...WE (SexArt) are truly aiming to produce original content, nothing like any other site has had before. Everyone won't appreciate it, but we don't expect that.
If you want truly original, totally unique content, we have it.
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FYI - As of late July, these guys were looking for international sponsors. Seems like it would be a perfect for SexArt.
http://www.masquerade-society.com/
If you think you might be interested let me know and I'll put you in touch with the owner. I also know of other similar type groups. Here's one in nyc.
http://www.onelegupnyc.com/
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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody
While many of the comments in this thread hold grains of truth within them I seriously don't think most of you (most - not all) "get it" as to why ErosExotica, XArt, Fellucia Blow, MetArt etc sell.
It is NOT the lighting, or the production values, or the music, or the cameras used, or the editing techniques, or the pacing of the scenes, or the transition effects.....
....ALONE. Yes, all those things are contributing factors and help to enhance the REAL reasons this type of "porn" sells.
TOP 5 REASONS:
1. No anonymous, stunt-cock sex. The performers look like they actually know each other and haven't met 5 minutes before the Director said 'Action'. Believe it or not, having met your lover before you fuck them makes a wee differance in the sex.
2. No talent overexposure. The actresses (not the male talent; sorry guys but only twinks notice the dudes) have not been seen in a hundred hardcore, nasty fuck scenes. In other words, it would be extremely difficult for a Charley Chase or an India Summer (as just a couple examples, no offense meant) to "pull off" a MetArt scene because people have seen them everywhere doing everything.
3. The sex itself does not come across as your standard 3-position bang-a-thon. You know, almost every porn scene on Earth starts with a blowjob, maybe some pussy-licking in reciprication (tho often not), then reverse cowgirl, doggy and missionary, then a pop shot on the face (see below)....how original and thrilling! You can substitute spooning, cowgirl or pile-driving for any of the above "standard" positions but it's almost always three.
4. No Money Shot in the face. Okay, some Fellucia Blow and XArt blowjob scenes end with facials, but generally the "money shot" doesn't happen on a girl who's just recently dismounted some giant pecker pole like an Olympic gymnast.
5. No pain, lotsa gain. Most (again, not all) porn shot today looks like consensual rape, with the girl being hit, spat on, choked, spanked raw, held down as she's pounded endlessly - and of course she's supposed to "love it"! With sites like ErosExotica there's affection, caressing, loving gazes, sensual kissing, and the scariest emotion of all to the sex-addicted, drug-addicted narcissists who populate this Industry - intimacy.
But go ahead, PLEASE continue to not get it so that those of us who do can make a killing while the rest of the adult industry withers and dies. Pretty please?
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Originally Posted by myjah
I'm not saying YOU have to be turned on by it (and your opinion as a woman is very valuable to us), but I am saying that our videos - our entire premise for filming REAL sex - is not posed.
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You might want to reach out to Violet at Tiny Nibbles as it seems like SexArt would be right up her alley.
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