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Originally Posted by DWB
First, let me say I'm not attacking anyone. I'm pointing out that taking screen shots is not proof of anything. But I'm glad you posted, because you raised another valid point.
Perhaps some doubter could use the excuse you gave if a video was used, it is certainly possible. However, if a video is flawed, per your suggestion, then what does that make screenshots? That means, based on what you said, both are idiotic. I won't argue that and for the sake of debate say you are correct, your logic is sound.
So then if both methods are both equally worthless and idiotic, which we both now agree on, then there is no proof at all of anything. There are only people with charges on their statement and they don't know how they got there. They can not prove they did not click anything or miss a x-sale, and they can not prove the charges were made illegally. This is all based on your logic, which I am willing to agree with.
The next question you have to ask is, if all of these charges were made illegally, why did everyone who used this tactic get away with it and continue to do it to this day? Where are Visa / Master Card, and the Feds? You would think they would be all over this. Maybe they are. Maybe they are not. Maybe they already did? Maybe there is not enough proof? Or maybe every link and xsale is accounted for? I honestly don't know the answer, it just seems odd to me that such a thing has allegedly taken place, at such scale, and nothing came of it legally. I'm sure I can not the only one to think this, am I?
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You made another huge error of critical thinking. And, for the record, I said your argument was idiotic in the sense of obviously you are not going to be convinced short of the clouds parting and a burning bush coming down to tell you MR is dirty. A video is not going to be very much more convincing than screenshots. Wearing a helmet cam 24/7 live streaming while you wait for your credit card statement to show up with banged entries on it is also not going to be very much more convincing.
Teencats screenshots are of course proof of nothing on their own. They could be photoshopped, etcetera ad nauseam.
However, you have to consider the provenance. Meaning, where are they coming from, consider the source, whats the motive, etcetera. These sorts of evaluations happen every day in the real world.
On the balance of probabilities in this case I find them to be very believable. If you take into account all the other evidence presented against MR and co. over the years it becomes even more believable, at least to me.
You seem to be working very hard to excuse MR either that or you're a world-class shitty logician.
You got one thing right though. For someone who doesn't want to see the facts, MR is blameless because actual standalone proof would take seizing MR's systems and records and maybe even compelling insiders to testify. Perhaps you should have withdrawn from GFY with them? It seems you both live in a world where MR did no wrong. At my count there's you, Tam, the rest of MR, and that's about it.