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Old 07-14-2012, 02:44 PM  
galleryseek
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I live where there are volunteer fire departments and "government run' fire departments. Difference is night & day. I'll gladly pay for professionals here in under 2 minutes in a fully equipped pumper as opposed to guys, who might be 30 minutes away at their job, trying to race through traffic in their pickup trucks.
When I said voluntary, I did not mean volunteer fire fighters lol or volunteer services lol.
In a voluntary society, you still pay for services, but it's voluntarily as opposed to the coercive nature of taxation. It's a better system because opposed to having a single business with a government sponsored monopoly over geographic locations (police force, fire fighters), you have multiple businesses that compete for customers. Imagine for a second if there were government sponsored monopolies of porn, or car maintenance, or grocery shopping. Sounds ridiculous right? There's no difference between those examples and security services or fire fighters.

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The FDA sucks but it's better than a few volunteers trying to make sure my food is safe. Competition sure didn't give us clean food. Read The Jungle.
Again, you completely confused my use of voluntary here.

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With out regulation, just competition every bank was failing in the early '30's. Took FDR, a Bank Holiday and the creation of the FDIC & the Glass-Steagall Act to make sure our deposits were safe.
Wrong. The great depression was caused by the monetary policies set forth by the newly created federal reserve. They're the same culprit for the housing bubble. Their easy credit policy (tampering with the free market) lead to an unsustainable credit-driven boom.

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My local government supplies my water & electricity at a rate 1/2 of my neighbors who are supplied by for profit companies. And these amazing part is, I know my local government run utility is run by guys robbing us blind. But they are still cheaper.

Face it, life is more complicated than the days of the Founding Fathers and "The Constitution." Somebody has to regulate the radio/tv/cell airways or there would be total chaos. Same with so many things Franklin & Jefferson never would have dreamed of. The more complicated life gets, unfortunately the more complex government will get. And with that comes more proof that we're stuck with an ever growing example of The Peter Principle.
Life does not get more complex. It may appear to get more complex but that's only because government becomes more complex, as you correctly pointed out. Why does government become more complex? Because it's inherently flawed. 40,000 new laws are introduced each year.

As the video below points out, early astrologers had to build insanely complex diagrams in order to illustrate the earth is at the center of the solar system; but once they figured out the sun is the actual center, those diagrams became much more logical and simplistic. In the same way, people currently believe state sponsored aggression is at the center of solving social problems. But just like those complex diagrams were made to justify a falsity, governments follow the same path. Instead the non-aggression principle is what needs to take place of the government, and that will only happen when people on a mass scale begin to wake up to that idea. Just as they did with slavery and the subjugation of women.



Edit: I'm not a huge fan of the constitution either. While the idea of states rights is definitely preferable over broad federal rights, laws backed by force are still illegitimate.

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