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Old 07-02-2012, 01:49 PM  
Barefootsies
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Originally Posted by DWB View Post
You can send 100s or 1000s of DMCAs to Paypal, pointing out not only material that has been stolen from you, but also that it is adult in nature and they are processing for it. I personally have sent 100s, so I know collectively they have received 10s of 1000s (or more), all telling them that file locker X has porn on it. What do they do? Nothing. Even after 10s of 1000s notices, they bury their head in the sand.

However, if you or myself takes one payment from a customer to give access to one of our pay sites, and they find out about it, our paypal account is closed without question. Period.
I feel your pain fine sire. You know this. However, you missed my point.

In the one example, you are a pornographer, and peddling porn, or directly receiving from porn. Your whole purpose for your pay site is to peddle porn. You receiving a payment from a sponsor is for peddling porn. There is a hard connection there, or line of proof, in that regard to say that you.... the DWB is involved in porn.

A file locker on the other hand, hosting company, search engine, registrar, proxy host, url shortener, 10 minute email service provider, is NOT a porn company (in theory). They actually are a service provider who 'may' have some porn using their service in some capacity... which may need to be removed, sgt schultz, against AUP, etc..... but they (in theory) have many more non-porn, non-copyright violator, customers who are using their service for a legitimate, legal, purpose.

Legally.... that is the slippery slope, and my original point here.

You have to show that those file lockers knowingly promote copyright theft. They knowingly host porn. They are knowingly involved with Oron, or alike in some capacity. They intentionally disregard DMCA notices, and copyright claims. You must have some level of PROOF.

Otherwise, it is being looked at as a one off issue with a couple of abusers on a service that has a million legal, legit, paying users. When a processor looks at it like that, they see the abusers are a drop in the bucket, and there are a million others not abusing. You have to show them otherwise.

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