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Old 06-14-2012, 05:25 AM  
Paul Markham
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Originally Posted by Mutt View Post
tubes are piracy sites - as are file lockers that are fed by blogs and forums where the links to the pirated content are published mostly by affiliates of the file locker commission programs which reward people for stealing the most popular content they can.
So long as they act on DMCA's they're legal. Unless you have proof otherwise.

All those who voted for an unregulated Internet have their wish.

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why we as an industry haven't launched a class action suit against Oron, Uploaded.to, Netload.in etc is beyond me - these file lockers run under the belief that they are protected by the safe harbor provided by the DMCA for 'service providers'. I don't think it would be very hard to show a court that file lockers are much more than 'service providers' as are the blogs and forums. you don't know until somebody actually makes the argument in a court of law.
It costs too much money. It's best done by richer industries.

Until there a big changes governing the Internet, nothing will change. If the words, that are unacceptable get booted out, the file lockers will get their processing back. It maybe CCbill, Paypal or Uncle Tom Cobbly, they will flourish.

So to change the present system processors, advertisers, traffic sellers and hosting companies need to be put in the frame as responsible for the piracy.

We can be a real thorn in their sides and boycott any processor, hosting, advertiser supporting piracy. Good luck on that front.

We need a regulated Internet or we have to accept what is as what is and not dream.

The only way out for some is to elevate their product above piracy to such a level people will want to buy it. Because the one myth we have created that shows our thinking is that we control traffic, we don't. So a fundamental change in thinking is required by those who can afford it.

Sites need to really appeal to customers. Shooting cheap cloned scenes of any girl who's anything above pretty isn't good enough. Shooting girls blurting out the same canned porn phrases isn't good enough. Shooting the same scene over and over again, just changing the bed to a sofa, isn't good enough. Guys who haven't a clue how to shoot good porn, isn't good enough. Sites with 50-60 scenes, isn't good enough.

Because ultimately that's what the buyer is spending money on. And it's not 1998 anymore. Even when I saw sites people here praised, I could see the product wasn't good enough. It simply didn't compete with the best offline.

What is good enough is great, unique and original porn with personality, in what ever niche the site is selling. Live shows for all to see and these have to be good. Interaction with a model on live webcam, not just 1-1, but this could be an upsell or a bonus to long term members. Promotion not at webmaster shows, do it at customers shows.

And then target the pirates over and over again.

Now all this is going to cost. So can a site afford to spend the money required to create the product and the money affiliates demand to promote it? This is what they want.


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No sniping at the examples, you all understand what I'm saying. Yes wall of text.
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