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Old 06-14-2012, 02:40 AM  
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Originally Posted by EukerVoorn View Post
Sorry but I don't agree. Everybody knows what filelockers are being used for. So when a payment processor accepts a file locker, they know they'll be processing for CP and other illegal crap.

What is comes down to is that everybody can start making money from CP today and get away with just as long as they use the filelocker construction;

- Filelocker is registered on some fake name and address, for example Oron.com was registered on the address of a hotel in Luxembourg for years.

- The server is registered on a fake name and address as well. You can get a server at LeaseWeb instantly, you give them fake details, they won't double check it and they don't ask for a copy of your passport.

- Then the people uploading content to your server are anonymous as well. Someone uploading CP will probably use a VPN.

So there you are as a hosting provider, making millions from a filelocker like this, and you're untouchable because it's not your site and not your server.

The payment processor makes money from it as well, but is untouchable it's not their site and not their server.

At the same time nobody can take action against the site- or server owner because he's hiding behind a fake name and address. When the police jumps on it, all they can do is order the hosting provider to deactivate the server. Then the asshole behind it orders a new server under another fake name and starts all over again.

So where do you go next? To the next company that is involved and that isn't hiding behind a fake address, in this case CCBill and/or the hosting provider, I would say.

EVERYTHING about this filelocker construction is ILLEGAL. Then when people want to criticize the companies that are involved they have to follow the rules and procedures? How about CCBill following the procedures also known as the law? Production, distribution, storage and financing of CP is illegal and by processing payments, they provide with a means to finance it, so they're violating the law. They wouldn't if they really didn't know what these filelockers are being used for, but after today they do know.

Apart from all this there's a moral issue. If you were a hosting provider or payment processor, would you accept a filelocker as your client? I really hope that most of them don't. If that's correct, then the few ones who do accept them as a client, shouldn't cry when they get criticized for it. If you don't want to get fried for being involved with CP, just stay away from it as far as you can. CCBill couldn't do that because when they smelled the money and couldn't resist the greed. Some people just are like that, they' would pimp their own kids if it would pay well enough.

As we say in Holland; if you burn your ass you have to sit on the blisters.

AND I think you have a saying in the USA: if you can't do the job, don't do it.

QFT +1

Mark Prince, your rep is now less than zero as far as I am concerned.

If I got involved in CP even in the slightest way I would expect to be shunned by every right thinking person. I would also expect to be arrested, put into prison, and placed on a sex offenders register.

There used to be a time when even the merest hint of this subject was so taboo that actually mentioning it on a board was an instant ban. If you even illuded to the fact that your site might have something even slightly suspicious your CCbill account would be pulled and your name and reputaion blacklisted.

CCbill have destroyed their reputation. Mark Prince has gone down with them.

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