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It is wrong to attack and blame CCBill for this. It is an issue for CCBill's to deal with of course, but mostly is filefactorys fault for hosting it, and the fault of the sick pervert who shot it.
Since we know that the pervert shooter won't co operate, and probably neither will File Factory, the only entity you can turn to is CCBill who IS a member in good standing of the adult community and who HAS shown they give a fuck. People who trash CCBill for things like this sound like idiots with zero credibility.
Want to report CP? Send an email to CCBill asking how to properly report it. CC it to Tim over at ASACP too as I am sure they want to know. Don't include links, screenshots, descriptions. "CP" is all they need to hear. Give them time to get back to you, and email them again in case they don't respond quickly enough. If you want to protect yourself, CC your lawyer for the heck of it.
Then let everyone respond with correct instructions on what to do.
In the end you will have the offending site crippled, CCBill will give you a big wet sloppy kiss on the mouth, and the world will be a slightly better place for your efforts.
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Sorry but I don't agree. Everybody knows what filelockers are being used for. So when a payment processor accepts a file locker, they know they'll be processing for CP and other illegal crap.
What is comes down to is that everybody can start making money from CP today and get away with just as long as they use the filelocker construction;
- Filelocker is registered on some fake name and address, for example Oron.com was registered on the address of a hotel in Luxembourg for years.
- The server is registered on a fake name and address as well. You can get a server at LeaseWeb instantly, you give them fake details, they won't double check it and they don't ask for a copy of your passport.
- Then the people uploading content to your server are anonymous as well. Someone uploading CP will probably use a VPN.
So there you are as a hosting provider, making millions from a filelocker like this, and you're untouchable because it's not your site and not your server.
The payment processor makes money from it as well, but is untouchable it's not their site and not their server.
At the same time nobody can take action against the site- or server owner because he's hiding behind a fake name and address. When the police jumps on it, all they can do is order the hosting provider to deactivate the server. Then the asshole behind it orders a new server under another fake name and starts all over again.
So where do you go next? To the next company that is involved and that isn't hiding behind a fake address, in this case CCBill and/or the hosting provider, I would say.
EVERYTHING about this filelocker construction is ILLEGAL. Then when people want to criticize the companies that are involved they have to follow the rules and procedures? How about CCBill following the procedures also known as the law? Production, distribution, storage and financing of CP is illegal and by processing payments, they provide with a means to finance it, so they're violating the law. They wouldn't if they really didn't know what these filelockers are being used for, but after today they do know.
Apart from all this there's a moral issue. If you were a hosting provider or payment processor, would you accept a filelocker as your client? I really hope that most of them don't. If that's correct, then the few ones who do accept them as a client, shouldn't cry when they get criticized for it. If you don't want to get fried for being involved with CP, just stay away from it as far as you can. CCBill couldn't do that because when they smelled the money and couldn't resist the greed. Some people just are like that, they' would pimp their own kids if it would pay well enough.
As we say in Holland; if you burn your ass you have to sit on the blisters.
AND I think you have a saying in the USA: if you can't do the job, don't do it.