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Old 06-13-2012, 09:35 AM  
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Hi Brad,

Good post, much appreciated.
I was excited to see what was accomplished in the last few days by various members in the industry.

Size should never be an excuse to loosen up KYC policies though, it will take more time but should be a common business practice in my book. It is not so difficult to run a few whois'es or google searches.

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The most productive actions will be those focused on the people who are knowingly complicit with breaking law. They are the criminals, it is they who professionally obfuscate corporate information, online presence and everything else. Like any thief or criminal mind, every action of theirs is *premeditated* to defraud their vendors and fly under the radar as long as possible in between vendor "change ups".
Of course every now and then shit happens and stuff slips through, it is the way how people deal with that. CCBill clearly does not see the need to make a public statement about the fact they are knowingly facilitating websites who monetize on child porn and piracy. The fact that they suspended all billing for uploaded.to was a great move, however as it turns out today they reinstated billing for uploaded.to after 2 of the 3 reported urls were removed. For an outsider this makes one think CCBill values income over values and laws. CCBill has been notified by several channels about the issues found.

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I don't believe for a New York second either Ron or Stephanie as owners would not cease processing or hosting upon discovery of criminal activity or any activity which does not meet the compliance requirements of card associations.
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Further, that with a group of companies that has more than 400 employees that I will reserve judgment based on their actions to follow. It is logistically, procedurally and organizationally difficult to "know everything" and impossible to root out all future unknown actions by clients IN SCALE. CCBill has scale: hundreds of employees, billions of dollars processed, tens of thousands of clients, hundreds of thousands of affiliates. I believe they have done an admirable job for our industry. Nobody could show me any company with this reach historically who has done better. It seems clear to me that CCBill needs to make a new, concerted effort to proactively find and terminate this type of activity. I think they need to release a more thorough statement to customers and the industry to address what efforts and changes will be made internally and compliment that with educational information to help us all better understand how to effect change.
As stated above, they are currently processing again for uploaded.to after they first disabled it.
So obviously an upper hand decision was made, I don't believe any sales rep can just reinstate a terminated account. While I agree that the real criminals are the ones monetizing on this sort of content, right now CCBill isn't any better by facilitating them again after they have been warned and took action.
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