Originally Posted by Choopa Phil

Life will also kill you sooner or later. Frank Zane, Arnold, Lou Ferrigno. All professional level BBer's who used for decades and are still alive and kicking into their 60's and 70's. Not to mention when they have used there was no where near the plethora of information and knowledge there is now (no blood work done, no post cycle therapy used, and cycled for months on end). HGH and insulin used by BBer's today, that is what causes premature deaths ON TOP OF steroid ABUSE. Things are different nowadays