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Originally Posted by TheSwed
and what about people that makes a living on illegal produced content,
can they claim ownership of that content?
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What someone creates or where they create it is irrelevant. The fact is, they created it and they own it. This is 100% about who owns and controls created works. Nothing more.
Saying something was produced illegally does not mean they can not own it. In most states in the USA it is illegal to make porn. It is also illegal to make porn in many countries. Being created under a law that *may* rule that creation illegal is not a reason to take away ownership from the person who created it. That just means you happen to be in a place where a law was in place at the time of creation, and that law could change at any time, in any direction. But you still own what you created. That's how it works.
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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog
We are talking about what has been said on GFY - If this is the real world then god help us all.
Don't get me wrong GG's views are VERY wrong in my opinion.
I just don't like the idea of someone from here acting as Judge, Jury and Executioner.
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GG made his point years ago and has been beating a dead horse every since just to spite everyone here and try to rub their faces in it. Now he's getting his face rubbed in it.
What is said here in passing and what is said here by someone who is part of group that is harming the lives of everywhere here are different things. GG knows what he is doing and this is the price he will have to pay for poking the bear. That's just the way it works sometimes. If you don't like it, don't poke the bear. GG prided himself on getting away with kicking the bear for several years, but in the end it doesn't look like it worked out the way he planned. That's life.
If someone wants to play keyboard tough guy or troll and it backfires eventually, he has no one to blame but himself. I feel no pity for GG or anyone like him who eventually gets their ass handed to him.
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Originally Posted by NewNick
But there is another important point here. Peeps on forums create their own keyboard warrior personas. They say things to each other which they would never do in person. You would not get through the day without getting punched if you spoke your mind as if on a forum where no one knows where you work and live.
So I think we should all realise that forums are no different to the real world, if you piss people off they might decide that you need to be re-alligned with reality.
I personally would not go as far as what has been done to Mr Gallbladder but neither would I say it was wrong or that he did not deserve it. GG reaped what he sowed.
GG thought that a board persona gave him the right to say whatever he wanted to a group of people with real lives and businesses. But just like the good folks at Westboro you take this line and you find that those you attack are entitled to free speech aswell.
There are one or two others that post similar stuff to GG. "Its not theft" is a particularly difficult line to swallow when it is your stuff being stolen. "There is nothing you can do about piracy" is another argument that might get you into trouble. I am not advocating any kind of backlash against those that hold this view, but really a forum is just like real life, you temper what you say to people or be prepared for the consequencies.
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Good post.
If someone wants to support piracy, they are free to do so, but go do it somewhere else.