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1. Lumping CNN and MSNBC is dumb, CNN is so pro-establishment, it will not go against "conventional Washington wissdom"
2. You're right it's so sad MSNBC doesn't react against this
3. Except for gay rights and torture, I think Obama has actually been worse om civil rights than Bush. Under Obama group of people who are targeted without trial has expanded. But the most sad thing is how Obama didn't roll back most of the Bush policies.
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