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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
I wondered if you were stupid enough to fall into the trap I was clearly laying. So you're basing this on the Government deciding to take no control on where the money is spent. The sites giving away the content will need to redeem the credits. Just making payment to the creators pre supposes those getting it for free will now pay for it or the "Credits" can be redeemed from the Governments. The charity organisations that have the tax deductible donation status, are they approved by the Government or can anyone just set themselves up?
You are stupidly opting for a system that puts people in the lap of the Government.
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the ability of the copyright holder is currently bound by both the legislature and the courts.
so you have the iexact same problem.
If that not an issue, changing the system to create competing model isn't going to hurt
Remember the option exist to keep the old copyright system
And the attempt to change the laws to deal with the "problem" of piracy always goes against the public interest.
Which means your never going to get a solution unless your willing to give something back.
The tax credit system at least has a market influence in it.
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Yes I gave examples of how it would work, with the patrons controlling the artists. Thank you for seeing the obvious problems.
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As opposed to the current system where you need to sign a record deal, or get a distribution deal with a studio to get your film out there.
You yourself pointed out those "investors" want to get paid back, they make creative changes to the content to maximize their investment.
The type of patronage is all that changes, from one where the goal is ROI to one where the goal is the artistic expression.
And since it micro partonage (lost of small people combined together) the consequence is that people fund the stuff where the artist vision matches their desire outcome, not the reverse of the artist having to conform to the desires of the 1 or 2 investors.
Expression is better protected by a micro patronage system
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...83/the-canyons
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...-tour?ref=live
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...nture?ref=live
double fine made 3.5 million for a game in a genre that is investors said was dead (point and click adventures).
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So people would pay for the goods. Which land do you live in? The rest of us live in the real wold where they wouldn't.
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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...nture?ref=live
3.5 million for a dead genre of games
you seriously need to look at the number of successful projects on kickstarter there are a lot of people who are paying lots of money for stuff they want to see created.
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How much would this raise and how do you know a million would pay?
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a kickstarter project just recently broke 10 million dollars
when was the last time you sold 10 million dollars of your content.
The whole concept of crowd funding is that if your a totally unknown person with a good idea
you may get 50k-100k
if your a game developer who is know by 1 person out of very 115,643 people your project raise 3.5 million
If martin Scorsese went crowd funded his next movie, went to every press outlet he had access to how many of his fans would want to see what he creates.
people are willing to plunk down 10-15 to see what he creates after the marketing investors have "fixed" his artistic vision.
of which maybe 2 goes back to the original production company
If only 10% of that audience spends the same amount of money to see the true artistic vision you have made exactly the same amount of money.
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Enough money to fund the billions of dollars spent? Show proof please.
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done above
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And you know this because?
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because that exactly what happened with open source software 10,000 time and more.
linux is the proof.
The model has been proven
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GG you're too stupid to see the trap I laid for you. The moment the "tax credit" system comes in, you don't realise the Governments will decide who will qualify and therefore have control. They won't allow tax credits on any donations to anyone. You just came up with a great idea for Government to rule what qualifies.
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the current charity system doesn't stop deductions for donations to the humane society
even though less then 1% go to the advertised pet shelter support
http://humanewatch.org/
lobby groups and political donations are tax deductible.
The national endowment of the arts has had problems censoring types of art by cutting funding because of first amendment issues.
In addition to all the normal establish charitable handcuffs this tax credit system would be equally protected by the first amendment.
If the government had the free hand you are trying to claim it does, this industry would not be protected by copyright law.
Porn producers would not be entitled to copyright protection.
For someone who producers porn you really don't understand the first amendment at all do you.
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You also dream those who get it for nothing will suddenly start paying for the product. They can pay for it today, they don't and won't.
See my signature to see what I was doing. You are seriously too dumb to breath.
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except i have shown you people are willing to pay for content
kickstarter proves that
louis c.k. proves that
radio head proves that
dan bull proves that.
zoe keating proves that
and more than 100 other example i have already given.