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Old 05-09-2012, 09:15 PM  
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Originally Posted by His Infernal Majesty View Post
Affiliates estimate is an estimate that affiliates at 50% revshare would make half your sales, so it's 25% off gross. But it's different for every site, so that's why I said estimate.

I'd agree with you 100% for a model just starting out who needs to build a fanbase. Gisele is tops, though. Huge following, works hard, knows her stuff. I imagine even she was handling the content production herself already, too. Whomever she chooses to work with won't be building from scratch, she already has a lot of that stuff in place. She's just been involved in bad deals. I just want her to have a stable site so I can promote it.

Look at what Nikki Sims has accomplished on her own. And this is no offense to you, because you run killer sites, but 90% of solo girl sites end up only making that much a lot of times because of goofy webmasters. Case in point with the girls here.
Im confused because i dont actually know the Nikki Sims story but isn't Nikki Sims new site partnered up with PinkVelvetVault? Are you saying she built pinkvelvetvault and got those affiliates onboard? Also you have no idea how much she pulls in, if you have been told a number, doesn't mean its accurate. Then on top of that, nikkisims was registered in 2007. That was during much much better times in the solo market, sadly not many program owners in solo know how much things decrease each year because nobody is launching anything lately, Joey from pinkvelvet launched kendra rain recently, look where that went. Every year makes a drastic difference. Nikki Sims also was one of those girls that came during the big boom (as nextdoornikki), which means she was able to attract a huge audience and build a fanbase thats impossible to post gisele time, it's similar to hockey, big names like wayne gretzky and gordie howe will forever be remembered, why? because they played during a time where there were dynasties and superstars were made. nowadays, theres alot of parody and even amazing players won't be remembered for a 100 years. NextDoorNikki/Kates Playground could forever make a ton of money. Its not a proper comparison

Huge following and works hard doesn't really make a huge difference. It helps, but its not a huge difference. Sadly her following on MFC won't turn into mad sales, neither will her twitter followers.

It will turn into sales for sure, but her site isn't going to be making more than 30 percent more because of that.

And she were to start it on her own, if she only targeted her mfc fans and twitter fans, etc - her member base would be tiny. Its getting your content across the web that matters. something she has no experience in. building a new affiliate base is HARD. it was hard for myself even and ive been doing this a long time. every year that goes by, less and less affiliates, a model can really take advantage of programs that launched a few years ago because they had the ability to get more affiliates signed up and onboard

Look at Hailey(haileyshideaway), her site was one of the few that did real well in the past couple years, one of the VERY few! and she just tried to launch something where she had more control, shes not making anything. She had a good following. Doesn't do you anything unless you have a great webmaster.
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