Originally Posted by MediaGuy

Each floor was buttressed by the perimeter columns. The failure of these on one or multiple floors would not lead to their failure top to bottom of all floors.

The unlikely NIST theory is that the inner buttresses between the core and perimeter began to "sag" because somehow low temperatures for a short amount of time weakened the steel which they were made of.

The official conspiracy theory states the perimeter columns bent inwards, not "outwards" as you claim.

Regardless, this would not "pull" all perimeter columns all the way down to their undamaged and un-weakened base 80 stories below.



"in some places they were completely destroy" meaning that on one side out of four of several floors of the tower there was damage - 25% or less on those floors. They didn't affect the perimeter columns below, as video and photographic evidence shows.


Exactly correct. Most floors were uncompromised and structurally sound.


Yes they did fall down, vertically. Against all probability.

Out of three buildings, you'd think at least one would tilt and fall sideways, but none did.

One did start to fall sideways, but against all probability got "eaten up" and consumed in the vertical destruction.

There's nothing in these "collapses" that smacks of "origanic" or natural collapse...


A plane hit it at about the 80th level. How could that have any effect on the multiple sub-basements that were eradicated?


Well certainly if there had been a planned demolition the core would have been destroyed - it is one of the sturdiest parts of the structure, and would require special attention.

But your officially sanctioned theory would have it that the building fell by happenstance, and that the core somehow was pulverized along with the "accidental" destruction of the exterior columns and inner floors.



Toilet paper and plastic toilet seats will not melt steel. There were no office furnitures in the cores. Batteries and generators weren't detected or reported as having melted down.


One building was hit head-on. Nothing erupted from the other side. The other was hit at an angle, and one engine apparently went through out the other side. Most of the Airliner fuel was ignited outside one building, whereas most was ignited inside the the other.

The buildings suffered very different impacts.


Nice, popular theory with no basis in reality. The support was not "destroyed" and the core was not "hit" or compromised. NIST report.


What I'm saying is that the government theory cannot account for the behaviour of the steel and the building with its ridiculously low temperatures.

What I'm saying is that it would require exceedingly hotter temperatures than those accounted for by the government hypothesis to produce the results we were witness to...


The impact speed was secondary.

Another thing is the actual speed of the airliner - according to pilots who disagree with the official theory, commercial airliners couldn't reach or maintain such a speed at this elevation and air pressure. It's unlikely that they were actually going as fast as reported, and even if it was possible they wouldn't have compromised the entire structure's solidity.


If they survived the impact, it wouldn't have affected their integrity. According to readings, they oscillated perfectly and behaved exactly according to projections.

There's no reason - and there were no indications - that they would crash down through their basements.


About the intentional ramming of planes in the buildings - you're wrong. They were expected, and planned for.

The speed estimates have been exaggerated through ignorance. No commercial airliner can move at 600mph at this sea-level and air-pressure. Whether 200mph or 400mph, these sorts of incidents were considered.

Plenty of agencies were planning for such attacks. Only Condie Rice and Bush Jr. ever claimed that no one imagined attacks of this sort.


Made your life so much better.


I didn't or don't conjecture what "the US government" did or didn't do. I know they can do a lot more now without legal or constitutional resort than they could before September 11, 2001.

Whether or not that's affected you yet I can't say. I can bet that it will sooner or later though...

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