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Old 04-14-2012, 07:28 PM  
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Support was "gone" non-symmetrically. So how did symmetrical collapse ensue? In three cases...

You keep saying it was symmetrical, and it wasn't. It looks symmetrical thanks to the distance the various cameras were away from the WTC. If you were far away, it would like they they fell straight down. If you were right beside it, it would be falling in a chaotic mess all around you in all different directions. A "Symmetrical collapse" is a perceived notion only.


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I don't care if a fucking airplaine hit the buildings - it wouldn't create heat enough to melt, soften or weaken steel.
If it were ONLY the jet fuel that was burning, maybe you're right, but other materials including gasses were burning as well. Jet fuel can burn at temps up to 980 degrees celcius. The temperature at which steel changes from cementite and pearlite (strong phases of steel) to austenite (significantly less strong) is 702.5 deg. Celsius.

Don't forget too that there was lots of damage to the building too. Damage + heat + time weakend a couple of beams (maybe only one, who knows) which caused it to bend, which caused more weight on those beams, which then bent even more, until the collapse.

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You saw fireballs... where? OUTSIDE the buildings.
Yes, but they originated inside the buildings. Why is that even a concern?

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And flames/fire for an hour at most on a few floors. Nothing to eradicate support for 100 floors in their entirety.
On the contrary, there is LOTS to eradicate the total destruction of WTC.

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You're a smart guy man, use your reason.
You too...!

Dude : You know I'm no engineer or scientist, but I have more than a passing interest in science, technology, physics and even astrophysics. Everything I have seen of ever video of the event clearly points to nothing more than fire and damage caused by planes which caused the collapse.

I have seen the side-by-side video of WTC and a controlled demolition of some building. They look similar for sure and the comparison is quite interesting, but its only interesting for a few minutes. All it takes as a little zooming in onto the details of the WTC collapse to see that it was very different from a controlled demolition.
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