Originally Posted by vdbucks

No, it's not an opinion. It's actual fact because there is no factual evidence that supports anything you're saying. Which makes it pure speculation. You're just trying to present your speculation as fact when it's not.

What was stated after the fact does not make it racially motivated. At the beginning of the call he wasn't even sure if the guy was black until he confirmed it later. That is a fact.

I don't care about what you say. You are entitled to your opinions and speculation... what I do care about though is you attempting to present said opinions and speculation as facts when they are not.


You know, it's funny. Every time you can't actually refute what I say, you make this play at my intelligence. It's cute.

2nd degree murder is, by definition, the same as 1st degree murder except it's not premeditated or planned in advance. The event that happened falls under neither category of murder. Manslaughter, possibly; but murder, hardly.


No, he proceeded to act like a neighborhood watchman, of which he was. And he only followed the guy because the police asked him where he went. it can and should be argued that this was his only reason for getting out of his car.



Once again, you make it sound like he was within arms reach when he wasn't. The guy ran off and zimmerman, while on the phone with the police and being asked by the police where he went, got out of his car and tried to follow him. When the police told him it wasn't necessary, he stopped following him - which of course can be argued but the sudden change in background noise on the phone call indicates he stopped following.


I didn't listen to the other calls but let me guess... they were asked to go out and see what was happening either a. while the conflict was taking place, or b. after a shot was fired. It makes absolute sense to say no for either.

It also would have made sense for zimmerman to stay in the car... but naturally, a guy running away isn't initially posed as a physical thread (my opinion), he was trying to assist the officer on the phone by keeping the guys location current (fact because the officer asked him where trayvon went), and as noted above, he didn't follow the guy that closely (could be viewed as opinion but considering the phone call it's safe to say that he wasn't within arms reach or even close considering it sounded like - by his comments of these assholes always get away - that he lost visual contact with trayvon).



Sure, it would make page 3 in the local and maybe state papers but it wouldn't be blown up the way this case has been if race wasn't involved. That is quite evident because of how the media lied and fabricated details of this case. The whole damn thing was made about race from the jump.

Also, just so you know, the police do not file charges, the district attorney does. Just thought you'd like to know.