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Originally Posted by vdbucks
I'm hardly grasping at anything. You are constantly attempting to form facts from speculation, and I am disproving your speculation. Everything you are saying is speculation.
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That is your opinion, but everything I have stated thus far can be traced back to evidence through the tapes or the interviews/
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Originally Posted by vdbucks
Once again, the officer asked him if he was white, black or hispanic. zimmerman answered that he looks black, and later confirmed it clearly after he got a good look at him. That is not racial profiling. At no time on the phone did he say that the robberies were conducted by black people. He simply said "we've had some break ins in my neighborhood and there's this real suspicious guy". Once again, you are trying to form facts from speculation.
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I'm repeating myself yet again.
I did not say that Zimmerman said that the break-ins were done by blacks. The additional information about the robberies came from the three separate interviews of Zimmerman's two friends and his lawyer.
If you doubt what I say then simply ask me where I got it from.
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Originally Posted by vdbucks
Acting irresponsibly is not grounds for a murder charge.... unless they can prove that his intend was to harm trayvon, which they cannot. Manslaughter? Sure. But murder? not hardly.
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The problem at hand is that you do not know the definition of second degree murder and likely are applying principles of first degree murder to this case.
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Originally Posted by vdbucks
He's a civilian, not a trained officer.
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EXACTLY. Yet he proceeded to act like one without due cause or process.
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Originally Posted by vdbucks
Once again, you are trying to form fact from speculation. The kid ran off and the officer asked him where he was headed. I doubt that ANYONE would have just stayed in the car.
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Any reasonable person who was not armed would not be stupid enough to follow a complete stranger who ran away in the dark at night.
If you listened to several of the other calls, the dispatchers asked if the callers could go outside to see what was happening. NONE of them did and one flatly refused.
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No it wouldn't. First and foremost, if race weren't the only point in the equation, then we wouldn't even be having this conversation because it probably wouldn't even have seen page 3 let alone become some national ordeal.
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So the killing of a teenager by a man who mistakenly thought he was a criminal based on nothing but a description in the dark wouldn't make the news? How about adding to the fact that the police did not charge the man in the case initially and refused to for weeks? Do you think that it would make the national news then? I would definitely believe so.