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Old 04-13-2012, 07:43 AM  
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Be rational and logical, not emotional. So what you are saying is that a kid who did not even live in the community and was just visiting was a part of the established chain of burglaries in that neighborhood.

Now you're grasping for straws.
I'm hardly grasping at anything. You are constantly attempting to form facts from speculation, and I am disproving your speculation. Everything you are saying is speculation.

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Again, merely reporting suspicious behavior and acting on one's expressions regarding suspicious behavior, WHILE on the phone with police are two different things.

Zimmerman was guilty of the latter.
Once again, the officer asked him if he was white, black or hispanic. zimmerman answered that he looks black, and later confirmed it clearly after he got a good look at him. That is not racial profiling. At no time on the phone did he say that the robberies were conducted by black people. He simply said "we've had some break ins in my neighborhood and there's this real suspicious guy". Once again, you are trying to form facts from speculation.

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You're not comprehending clear language. My basis for the case is the dangerous conduct that Zimmerman exemplified when he shot and killed Martin. The criminal profiling element is merely a supporting argument that logically reinforces the fact that Zimmerman acted irresponsibly and grossly in error when he left his vehicle to pursue a teenager that he mistakenly thought was a burglar.
Acting irresponsibly is not grounds for a murder charge.... unless they can prove that his intend was to harm trayvon, which they cannot. Manslaughter? Sure. But murder? not hardly.

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When you were told by a police neighborhood watch representative not to, told by the dispatch that the police were only a few minutes away and then having to be reminded that pursuit was not necessary, it is wrong. It all adds up to dangerous and reckless conduct. Being armed amplifies his culpability.
He's a civilian, not a trained officer. Police officers, military personnel and the like forget their training at some point or another when under a stressful situation. And when the officer on the phone told him he doesn't need to follow him, it sure as shit sounded like he stopped following him.

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Being on the losing end of a conflict that could have been avoided completely if one had stayed in their vehicle and let the police do their jobs is not an excuse to shoot anyone. Self defense flies out of the window when established provocation is an element in the case. And it is.
Once again, you are trying to form fact from speculation. The kid ran off and the officer asked him where he was headed. I doubt that ANYONE would have just stayed in the car. Also, you have not proven that zimmerman was the aggressor. There is no evidence one way or another as to whom initiated the conflict.


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Flawed analysis yet again. Like I said earlier, taking race out of the case actually hurts Zimmerman even more because it means that he criminally profiled an innocent teenager that was walking down the street minding his own business without due cause, due process or the legal authority to do so.
No it wouldn't. First and foremost, if race weren't the only point in the equation, then we wouldn't even be having this conversation because it probably wouldn't even have seen page 3 let alone become some national ordeal.


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If it comes up, I will. I'm just putting information out there for persons to read and make up their own minds.
No, you are twisting just about everything with speculation and are attempting to present said speculation as fact.

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