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Originally Posted by vdbucks
Let me stop you right there... where are the FACTS that prove trayvon was innocent? Again, this is speculation. How do you actually know that trayvon wasn't one of the burglars? Where's your proof that he wasn't casing some houses or apartments or w/e?
You have no proof. You are trying to form a fact from speculation.
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Be rational and logical, not emotional. So what you are saying is that a kid who did not even live in the community and was just visiting was a part of the established chain of burglaries in that neighborhood.
Now you're grasping for straws.
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Originally Posted by vdbucks
So reporting suspicious behavior is racial profiling? Hell, I guess no one should ever do sucha thing again.
And LOL about the "civilian level profiling"... the actual police are much worse than that. And hell, even if the police showed up in time, trayvon still probably wouldn't been shot.. except then it would have been 10+ times instead of once.
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Again, merely reporting suspicious behavior and acting on one's expressions regarding suspicious behavior, WHILE on the phone with police are two different things.
Zimmerman was guilty of the latter.
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Apparently it's not considering everyone, including yourself, is basing the entire case around racism.
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You're not comprehending clear language. My basis for the case is the dangerous conduct that Zimmerman exemplified when he shot and killed Martin. The criminal profiling element is merely a supporting argument that logically reinforces the fact that Zimmerman acted irresponsibly and grossly in error when he left his vehicle to pursue a teenager that he mistakenly thought was a burglar.
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Originally Posted by vdbucks
Yes, following a suspicious person while on the phone with the police in the hopes of the police being able to find him and question him is completely wrong.
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When you were told by a police neighborhood watch representative not to, told by the dispatch that the police were only a few minutes away and then having to be reminded that pursuit was not necessary, it is wrong. It all adds up to dangerous and reckless conduct. Being armed amplifies his culpability.
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2 separate witness accounts state that zimmerman was the one screaming for help. And there are reports that trayvin had no injuries - although, why an official autopsy wasn't conducted is beyond me. If one was conducted then where's the evidence that trayvon had been hit as well? - indicates that he was the aggressor. It doesn't prove that he was but it creates enough doubt.
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Being on the losing end of a conflict that could have been avoided completely if one had stayed in their vehicle and let the police do their jobs is not an excuse to shoot anyone. Self defense flies out of the window when established provocation is an element in the case. And it is.
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EVERYONE has ALREADY made this about race. Even your so called unbiased prosecutor. Their very first angle is making zimmerman out to be racist.
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Flawed analysis yet again. Like I said earlier, taking race out of the case actually hurts Zimmerman even more because it means that he criminally profiled an innocent teenager that was walking down the street minding his own business without due cause, due process or the legal authority to do so.
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So you say, but I doubt you'll be so adamantly out for "justice" for zimmerman like you are now.
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If it comes up, I will. I'm just putting information out there for persons to read and make up their own minds.