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Originally Posted by Rochard
Of course. This is to be expected. The final report released the public was 400 pages long. They spoke to thousands. If they devoted half a page to each person, the entire report would have been nothing but interviews. And if they only devoted half a page to each interview, you should would have complained that not enough detail was given to each interview and you would have complained that the report contained nothing but interviews.
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They cherry picked the testimony to exclude any evidence of explosions prior to the impacts, as well as any explosions whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by Rochard
Do you see my point here? There was so much information that if they published it all, it would be volumes.
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And the crime doesn't warrant volumes? The final report was pre-written, the conclusions scripted by Zelikow, anything that didn't fit the script were omitted.
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Originally Posted by Rochard
The amounts of iron found must be staggering. It's so common that it's not funny. I'm drinking a Red Bull right now; Iron is in Red Bull. It even mentions it on the can. And I'm missing your point here - All this proves is that there was iron present, which is common and to be expected. Was it liquified? I would imagine so. Fireballs, fires, crushed by tons of concrete.
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The iron in your Red Bull isn't the same as that found in the dust from the destruction of the towers, which was much larger. An office fire and tons of concrete wouldn't turn iron to liquid, no matter the form.
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Originally Posted by Rochard
You need to specific about what your talking about here. Are you talking about the "molten steel" at the time of the fire caught live on video (which wasn't steel) or are you talking about the "molten steel glow photo" which wasn't a glow at all, but instead a flashlight?
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I'm talking about the iron found in the dust by multiple investigators who weren't sanctioned by the government - insurance investigators, scientists, etc....
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Originally Posted by Rochard
There's no proof that it wasn't used. Is there a list of "all materials used" at the WTC in the past forty years? I'm guessing not. And btw, the materials to make thermite is so common that Myth Busters was able to whip up their own batch.
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You're right - there's no proof either way, at least presented in this thread. However there's no proof that it was kept in storage at the site as well - and no reason for such a volatiile substance to be kept there. Thermite is usually carried to a site needing repair for this very reason.
And thermite isn't a point of contention here so much as thermate, which is a military grade version of thermite and shouldn't have been present in the debris from WTC.
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But here's the odd part. You accept that they found thermite. But explain to me why people collected dust from multiple locations to examine years later? What did they do, scoop it up in vials and say "I might need this later".
LOL.
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That's exactly what happened. And how companies such as RJ Lee had samples of the dust at Deutche bank...
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Originally Posted by Rochard
It would have taken tons of explosives to pull of a demolition to take down the towers. There's no way they could have planted it without people knowing, and no way they could have hid it.
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I don't know about "tones of explosives" as well as thermite and thermate are not explosives. I saw three buildings come down in one day in such a way that "natural" causes couldn't be considered.
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Originally Posted by Rochard
While I'm thinking about it... thermite burns at (gasp!) four thousand degrees. We've already determined the fire never got that hot - not even close to four thousand degrees F. If the fire never got that hot, then I guess thermite wasn't used?
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"We" never determined the fires never got that hot. The official story claims there couln't have been such temperatures at WTC. Your claim contradicts your quote from the FEMA report about the damaged steel. It's not my position that there weren't such temperatures at WTC - it's obvious that there were. But the official story of office fires and the denial of post-destruction molten steel goes counter to this.