04-10-2012, 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by u-Bob
DWB,
don't forget that in 1776 only minority actually supported the idea of independence.
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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam
The media sold the necessity of the PATRIOT Act in the face of the new threat of domestic terrorism. There was uproar but in the civilized form of debate. Governments in succession added more measures to the law. I wish there was hope for stopping this slippery slope of the alienation of constitutional rights but as of now no champion has arisen to this cause -- hopefully that will happen and some sanity will be reestablished.
With the Draconian laws that followed, they proved that the terrorists had won with the rights of the victim citizens denied in the face of terrorist threat (real or perceived).
America needs to return to more normal times historically it always has. |
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Originally Posted by tony286
Good points but a few things.
If you start talking about hurting the president or blowing something up in more than in passing. You will get a knock on your door even without this law.
Hackers, pirates , etc have all been in your face and laughing in the face of laws. It was just a matter of time before there was going to be a crack down.
The riots in the middle east is because those people didnt have shit. As much as people bitch here from their iphones, 80 percent of this country still lives a pretty good life. People dont revolt if they got something to lose.
Also the grass always looks greener. You never know the government you are going to get once government is over thrown.
I worked with a guy at GM, his father and 7 brothers all worked there also. His father and uncles were revolutionaries that helped Castro get into a power. Once it happened and it wasnt all roses as they had hoped , there was a big oh shit moment. When Castro started throwing their friends in jail, so they hauled ass out of the country. So you never know what you will get and if it will be better.
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All valid points. |
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