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Originally Posted by ruff
I suppose from a content producer's point of view you would be correct. Those days are over now. The big guys have their own inhouse production, there are still a few pros and there aren't the sites like there used to be. Some porn shops like NastyDollars or BangBros have their style of shooting using Nikon AK47's. Others, and a very successful niche to boot, relies on girls self-shooting with cell phones and handhelds.
The cat is out of the bag, the horse has left the barn and nothing is going to change any of that. No one on GFY is going share not one shred of their hard-earned knowledge with anyone else. It has to be stolen when published, then duplicated. Why? Because that is the working model for most of the webmasters out there now. I'm sure there are a lot of hard working webmasters that have found avenues of income beyond the convention website. I know I have and I think it will carry me very well into retirement. Looking back though, isn't going to make any money for me because there is not much to learn from, basically a 15 year old Internet. The market changed right under you and me. You should have done very well and I hope you did. Some of the information you share, Paul, would have benefited me very well 10-12 years ago, so thanks for that. LOL
I suppose, GFY bozos not withstanding, provoking discourse does keep things fresh and interesting and, at least, gets people thinking (good or bad).
I think we have to remember that porn is porn and art is art. Then there is Porn-Art which is a niche. Porn without the art is much, much bigger on the Internet because pretty much everyone is looking to bust a nut and when you are jacking off, you could care less about Photoshop, lingerie and some moke's villa on the Med.
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We had such a short window to make money. In 2007 the cost of B/W started to dive and the "Give it away free to sell traffic" guys had won. Prior to 2000 we were a cottage industry, speeds were low, hosting and B/W expensive and the penetration of online was yet to burst.Yes a few did make good money, because they were the few.
Then the "Anyone can do this." age was upon us. Anyone with a computer could drive traffic, anyone with PS could design a banner, TGPs were simple for those with a schoolboys knowledge of HTML and yes everyone with a digital camera could find a girl to get naked and produced what computer geeks who would fuck anything with a heartbeat thought was porn.
The people who were not so convinced were the porn buyers. Yes 10,000s were looking at galleries, but views to sales were a disgrace, clicks to sales were nothing to be shouted about. Only the foolish would boast converting 1% of the people who went through a tour after being qualified as interested to come and see it after viewing a gallery.
It didn't matter. 100,000s were coming online and it was all so easy.
The problem with the "anyone can do it" approach is they all compete with each other. Met Art level never did, because not everyone could shoot the content.
Like this content not everyone can think it out, put it down on paper, direct it, shoot it, market it and above all afford it. Look at this through the eyes of a DVD produce rand the response will be "So what's so great about it?" It's good of the same level of so money porn producers in the DVD world.
Misterpeabody, if you can do something a 1,000 others can't and appeals to the customer, you don't
NEED to be great at driving traffic. If you produce something that 1,000 others can produce, then getting 10,000s to view a sample, some to think of looking at the tour and a tiny number bother to get their card out. Traffic is king.
And if you can't afford to invest in a product that sells itself, then traffic is the name of the game. How much of the content on your sites do you own?
Why am I always reminding people of the past? Anyone who had had to suffer the insults from dwarfs that I had to has the earned the right to tell them they fucked up and were not so clever. Yes they understood how to give away free porn. That was all they understood. They made giving away free porn an art in itself.
