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Old 03-29-2012, 07:43 AM  
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Right. In other words, nothing that would melt steel.


First of all, it depends on the alloy used to make the steel. But iron itself melts at about 1300 celsius, which is about 2250-2500 Farenheit.
I never said steel needed to melt. I said steel starts to weaken at 400 degrees. The missing support combined with the weakened steel remaining is what did the towers in.

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Eh.... when the planes smashed into them, the buildings were no longer air tight.
Not at all. A number of floors had been compromised, but not all of them. In fact, most of them weren't. Only the floors hit, the sky lobbies, and the main lobby. The rest of the building is still air tight.

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Even before this, the buildings did not manufacture their own breathable air - a submarine is air tight, but no office buildings are...
Again, your lack of knowledge about the WTC complex is stunning. All of the breathable air was pumped in - and pumped out. All sky scrapers are built like this.

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I don't claim I have any proof to anything. However, there is proof of military grade incendiaries, and the presence of residuals that could only be present if such were used.

"We" didn't determine anything about thermite. You found a link to Wikipedia that mentioned thermite is used in exothermitic welding - railroad ties and thick-cable electrical network building. You didn't show any proof that it was used to build the WTC or any building in NYC, or that raw thermite was kept on the premises in case of the need for repairs.

The whole point of thermite welding is that it's dangerous and generates huge amounts of dangerous heat; that it's easier to weld a tie at the site of the accident than to drag it back to a shop. There's no indication that it's convenient to use thermite in building construction.
There's no proof of anything in the debris that points to any kind of explosives. The truth movement came up with thermite which was disproven, and then they came up with nano thermite. Then they came up with this iron particle stuff.

And all of this is kind of silly anyhow because anything found in the debris might be there because they used it to dismantle the debris to remove it.

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I don't know about "tons" of it - from the incendiary element found in the dust, explosives wouldn't be needed in such large amounts to destroy the building; their use would have been to "move" or shift the parts that were cut by the thermate.
You would have needed tons of explosives to take down that towers and there would have been no way to install any of it without anyone knowing.
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