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Joe Obenberger · 03-23-2012, 11:08 AM

The interesting thing is that he jumped back in his first reaction, distancing himself from a war against the porn industry. I think he's afraid of the affections/attractions of mainstream people. People want their porn and he knows it. I think he knows how fringe it makes him look to take on Porn Valley kinda porn, and he's afraid of the mainstream backlash.

Like the writer above said, the men want their porn. But it's broader. The females under 35 want their porn, too, and even the older women have grown much more tolerant about it because they are immersed in the same culture that accepts the vibrator ads on TV, whether they like it or not. Now, there's a whole generation of kids coming up who saw as much porn as they wanted courtesy of the tubemasters. Who make homemade porn. Who do the Original Amateur Hour stuff on computers with built in cameras. Male and females under 19 are watching porn as often and for as long as each other according to the National Academy of Science. The whole dynamic has shifted, and that entire generation under 25 is desensitized to porn and will never have the same visceral and often emotional reaction that earlier generations did, and to them, it's lost its stigma.

It's a whole tapestry woven of many fibres. Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton are part of it, the tubes are part of it, and the jokes on late night TV are part of it too along with chat roulette. Too early to tell what the tapestry will look like in its entirety, but when a presidential candidate of the far right distances himself from a war on the porn industry and says that making this a central theme of his campaign would be "bizarre", something BIG has shifted in our culture. What once looked like the future, not so long ago, is our Now.

03-23-2012, 11:08 AM
Joe Obenberger Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 466	The interesting thing is that he jumped back in his first reaction, distancing himself from a war against the porn industry. I think he's afraid of the affections/attractions of mainstream people. People want their porn and he knows it. I think he knows how fringe it makes him look to take on Porn Valley kinda porn, and he's afraid of the mainstream backlash. Like the writer above said, the men want their porn. But it's broader. The females under 35 want their porn, too, and even the older women have grown much more tolerant about it because they are immersed in the same culture that accepts the vibrator ads on TV, whether they like it or not. Now, there's a whole generation of kids coming up who saw as much porn as they wanted courtesy of the tubemasters. Who make homemade porn. Who do the Original Amateur Hour stuff on computers with built in cameras. Male and females under 19 are watching porn as often and for as long as each other according to the National Academy of Science. The whole dynamic has shifted, and that entire generation under 25 is desensitized to porn and will never have the same visceral and often emotional reaction that earlier generations did, and to them, it's lost its stigma. It's a whole tapestry woven of many fibres. Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton are part of it, the tubes are part of it, and the jokes on late night TV are part of it too along with chat roulette. Too early to tell what the tapestry will look like in its entirety, but when a presidential candidate of the far right distances himself from a war on the porn industry and says that making this a central theme of his campaign would be "bizarre", something BIG has shifted in our culture. What once looked like the future, not so long ago, is our Now. __________________ Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice. . . Restraint in the pursuit of Justice is no virtue. Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964 Last edited by Joe Obenberger; 03-23-2012 at 11:11 AM..