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I didn't read your second link; I'm not responding to anything Fox news says. Ever.
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I respect that, and even more so since they canned Judge Napolitano...
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The first link doesn't surprise me at all. Nearly all of the terrorists came from Saudi Arabia; It wouldn't surprise me at all if there was some kind of connection. Here in the US we see our government as one organization, but in a country like Saudi Arabia different areas of the government has different goals and doesn't always follow the "policy line".
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Well, it's all tribes, clans and families running different departments, government branches, etc... so...
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But the questions they are asking indicates they believe that the government is telling the truth, at least about how it happened.
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I think it would take a while, even if there were any indicators the press felt it could report on, before they sided other than with the administration story.
And it's not as if there weren't government whistleblowers; they've just been gagged and threatened and otherwise silenced (before you bitch slap me, look up Sibel Edmonds, Anthony Schafer, April Gallop and others). And though most were Bush-era witnesses, I hate to think what and who have come out since Adolph Obama's administration took over the handling of whistleblowers and "enemies of the state" or whatever.
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I believe it happened the way it's been explained to us.
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I don't. I don't believe the Israelis did it. I don't have a theory, per se - I have questions and doubts. I certainly don't believe the magical hijackers who appeared on the flight without getting on passenger manifests or appearing in properly time-stamped video were responsble - which doesn't mean I don't think they were there. I just don't know... or understand why so much secrecy on factors so obviously non-threatening to national security would be shrouded from public disclosure.
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I also believe that there are some areas where the government was incorrect - sorry, we didn't have scientists at the point of impact watching exactly what happened, and we are having to piece it all together from tons of debris.
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We haven't had and didn't have the tons of debris from square one, which is one of my beefs with any official story that claims to be authoritative. Together with the debris appropriated from the FEMA exercise, NIST had about 250 or max 300 items to use; and they weren't doing forensics on them, remember.
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But at the end of the day, two airplanes and a fire took out the towers.
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I think to state that squarely is to buy into an "investigation" based on too little findings, not enough facts, and a scattering of the voluminous testimony.
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Now, was some government agency in Saudi Arabia secretly planning this or funding this attack? Sure, anything is possible there.
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Anything is possible here as well as there, though from your own thoughts on JFK and here I think you have a definite block in believing that agents within your own government could act in such a fashion.
But there have been possible, probable and verified acts against the US and US interests by, or with the ascent of, US agencies in the past... but that to me in no way validates any 9/11 conspiracy theory, it's just salient fact and beside the point...
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