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Old 03-14-2012, 11:22 AM  
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I used the word "relatively" - as in relative to the building as a whole, relative to fires needed to even soften metal, relative to other infernos we've seen consume entire buildings for as long as 24 hours, without compromising any significant part of the structure.
Your trying to make the fires sounds small and minor when they were massive. They were so massive that they instantly spread to other levels and other buildings.

Other "infernos we've seen consume entire buildings for as long as 24 hours" are pretty much irrelevant being as they weren't fueled by tens of thousands of gallons of jet fuel and massive fireballs that traveled dozens and dozens of floors. A building can burn for 24 hours and still be standing. But it's not a building that is being feed by jet fuel after the impact of a large plane.

You say "A plane couldn't have done this" and then you say "A fire couldn't have done this". But what you fail to take into account is that it was both - a plane AND a massive fire that destroyed a good percentage of the support and then weakened the rest.

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The fires were localized to approximately 12 storeys. The presumed firebals lasted seconds, not setting fire to each floor they passed or they would have been weakened and dissapated. Other buildings aren't relevant here, with the exception that most of the fuel actually exited and ignited outside the buildings. It's estimated the fuel in the building had been consumed within ten minutes of impact, and the only "fuel" left was carpets, chairs, desks, etc... a widespread office fire.
A fire on 12 stories is not localized. It was in multiple fires in multiple locations, including the lobby seconds after impact. It also caught other buildings on fire seconds after impact. That's not localized at all. At this point, it's not even one fire but half a dozen fires.

There's no "presumed fireballs". Fireballs traveled down elevator shafts all the way down to the lobby, instantly. There's no discussion about that at all.

The fire was feed by jet fuel. It doesn't matter if the jet fuel was gone in ten minutes or two hours. This was not a typical fire. It was huge, in multiple locations of the building, set everything on fire, and then was fanned by winds fifty to one hundred floors up.

Your trying to make this sound like it was a small little fire. It wasn't. It was a jet fuel fireball at sixty stories that instantly spread to dozen locations, including other buildings.
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