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Originally Posted by MaDalton
hehe - you are the one who keeps mixing novelties into porn - now a homemade porn site cannot be compared? 
We had 2 very early clients btw - Karups and Twistys. You have no idea how many sets we shot for Twistys in 2004/2005 - without them we would have never learned how to shoot properly and we would have never survived that time. Thanks Shap and Beth 
but we also invested money in our own content and in the shop instead of looking for short term profit - and voilá, we're in 2012 and doing better than ever. And i am not kidding.
what separates us both is that you keep thinking a name or skill has something to do with porn or what is currently in demand. you keep throwing around names of people like Steven Hicks or Suze Randall that cater to a small niche and who would never sell to a broader audience.
we just adapt to whatever is in demand - just a very few people even know who actually shoots what we sell. 
and when the owner of MyDirtyHobby buys half of the porn biz, including Twistys, this should answer your question |
Porn shops never used to make a lot of money selling novelties. You're the one that keeps bringing novelties into it.
Yes a homemade site can be compared. If it's really homemade content or as good as real homemade content, then it's all about what I'm saying.
We would never work for Karups or Twistys, they couldn't afford to pay us. The idea of a newbie shooter shooting for a glam site is crazy. Karups or ATK is fine. They were buying on price.
Yes in the content game if you couldn't make more money by keeping ownership of the content, something was wrong. Did you make more keeping ownership of the content than selling it once to Karups?
No you've gone the same route as everyone else to justify a weak argument. In most cases, the top glam sites, couldn't afford the top glam shooters. In most cases, the top teen sites couldn't afford the top teen shooters, the top gonzo sites couldn't afford the top Gonzo shooters and so it goes on in most niches. Stop talking on one track to justify a weak argument.
Most sites adapted to what they could afford.
http://whois.domaintools.com/brazzers.com http://whois.domaintools.com/mydirtyhobby.com
Coincidence or what?
The problem is Madalton hasn't bothered to debate the issue, just gone off on his own track. No matter the niche or style, the better the content the better the conversion ratios and retention. Now the only question is why didn't online go for the top shooters in most cases?
He actually admits that he was still learning how to shoot in 2004/2005 and selling to Karups and Twistys. That effects the income of affiliates. How many more sponsors bought from shooters who
"without them (sponsors)
would have never learned how to shoot properly"?
Nice to know you confirmed my side of the debate. Maybe the sponsors could of been more helpful and had programmers, designers, marketing people, support reps, who were still learning.
