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Old 01-29-2012, 11:26 PM  
Vjo
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Originally Posted by gabe100 View Post
There's so much more opportunity these days. Back in 2000 when i started the big guys were Joe E, Max Cash, ARS, Ron, Dani etc..

Now days, ( it seems ) X Hamster alone is larger than all combined.

In Vegas, guys were showing me reports of member area traffic converting at 1-8, recurrings still at 3 to 1 vs initials. sites converting 1-200 off tubes.

These are awesome days for paysites. It's just a different world now days. I don't think we're seeing programs and sites going down as rapidly as we have the last couple of years. Things seem to have stabilized for a lot of people.

Vegas was a damn good show. My first in 8 or so years. Things are looking up for the ones that changed.
Hey Gabe Good points.

Members area traffic is a diff ballgame tho than converting raw traffic.

I also find that once you have a member they can recur so it would seem that members might indeed be upselling.

I guess what you are also saying (and seen) is as long as you have a tube with big traffic you will generate sales and those will then upsell.

But Mr Markham is still fundamentally right as tubes are still leveraging traffic to reap a few remaining members.

Did they tell you what traffic (impressions) is needed to generate a certain number of clicks (ctr) to then generate a certain signup ratio?

Sure once you have a member all is fine but getting members.. is that easier or converting better on x traffic than 5 years ago.

Tubes are simply leveraging traffic. Ratios are sky high but as long as you have tons of traffic sure certain ones will always buy.

I could be wrong but I dont think I am. Anyhow thanks for the input.

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