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Old 01-29-2012, 10:34 PM  
Vjo
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham View Post


The problem is it has taken more traffic month on month to achieve the same number of sign ups, with a few exceptions. While new people were coming online in places which were likely to buy it was fine. Because the growth made up and more for the drop of sales per 1,000. Today that growth in online connections in the Western World has slowed down. Then there are Tubes and piracy to take into the equation.

So yes you can still get sales if you have enough traffic, but that is one man's gain and another man's loss. Often the man gaining is doing so by giving away more free porn which in turn means a lowering of the sales per 1,000.

Now a few sites who started out on the right route can withstand this trend, like Met Art, they started with a very good standard and got better. They can afford to add great new content that beats others and keep members. The rest even in the golden days of easy money either couldn't or wouldn't compete with offline porn to get the best.

It's no secret we could earn $3,000 from a single set, minimum on a Readers Wives" set like these ones was $300 from magazines only. Sometimes a set would sell for $1,000 because an editor thought the girl was super hot. Then we got to keep the set and sell it out on the stores.

The money on a BG or GG set was higher, if shot right.

This isn't just me, it's the same for most offline shooters of any good and lets face it according to most here I'm crap.

Now then which site or program could compete with these prices and which one did? Then think of 2-5 sets or videos a day as updates. This is what most sites face. So the members realised if they stayed a member, they would get a little bit of new stuff every day, much like what they had seen for a month or two and a better way was to move on and for $30 get access to a brand new site full of new content.

Or for the wary, compile a list of their favorite sites, stay a month or two, see all the new stuff and then move onto the next in their list. And go around until the end of the list, then back to the start. Yes a few members stayed on, but who has an average of more than 3 months in a mainstream niche?

As you predict there's little that will turn it around. It's too late.

Aden I'm not having a dig at you, rather the business today. When was the last time you were paid $3,000 to shoot a solo girl set? Yes today the market is gutted. 5 years ago that was normal. Selling a set from the stores 10 times at $300 was normal and low, then add the video, then see signature. Few paysites could compete with that level of costs.
Quite the night. Good morning Delivering Pizzas for 6 1/2 years night shift.. I still feel best at 3:00 am and worst at 3 pm. Still sleep days when I can.

Thank you all (and the op) for letting the old man shoot the shit I really should start my own threads when I go off on tangents but I dont like the "responsibility" of dealing with what I might say the next day hehe

Right now I need a lil mellow something..

flow river flow
let your waters wash down
take me from this road
to some other town



do you use an expectorant Cyberhustler?
or are you just young and tough

Guaifenesin is your friend lol Did you know only one company can legally produce guaifenesin.. it was illegal from 1950 till the law was overturned ONLY for this company in 2006. That company would be Pfizer. That medication would be Robitussen.



hey Paul, thx for the response.

I guess what you are saying and what I also seem to see is that most paysites are not buying new content anymore or adding new sites that are updated. My best current recurring prog recurs at about 2 months on ave for all signups. That is not real good.

Yes I have some old progs that boiled down to maybe 2-3 remaining members who recur a bit longer. But they are the exception and it took a few years of sending traffic to end up with a couple "golden members".

Last of the month and first of the month are usually alright but mid month tends to suck which tells me that many people are just tapped out on the ole budget.

I think if people have money they will always buy porn, tho they are more picky. But give em something with some value (and not only say 200 vids) and they will still buy.

The trouble is there are few paysites with real perceived value compared to what is available free.

Anyhoo, this is all a firm grasp of the obvious lol

Sooooo, not much new to add so I'll just say, "have luck" with your sales everybody, as TC would say

it's alright ma, im only sighing



you've been hanging on to it
and i sure would like a hit



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why don't you try a little flying
there's no denying
it gets you high

when you've got wings
you haven't used yet
don't wait for heaven
get out and fly



shouts to my man CH but what is a spectre?



yes I thought of baddog while doing this

"have luck" on your sales

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