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Originally Posted by Vjo
Interesting analogy. Porn is definitely going downhill as a whole.
You just have to get a shitload of traffic  and then sales still come.
But as your analogy says, without fresh content, new content delivery methods, better payment systems (as Jakez mentioned, good point Jakez) paysite saturation or worse surfer saturation on porn videos as a whole as they have tons archived, have seen it all, prefer Youporn as Howard Stern does, would rather jerk to HD celebrity on YT since HD porn is not well produced or all free on tubes, ect ect.
Porn paysite model is slowly dieing as a whole tho it seems. This January was worse than Last Jan for sales on tours I worked on all year. Could just be a bad month tho.
Better lately but the mid month lull was extra hard this month.
Saturation looms over you to swoop down QUICK as soon as you think you got a good thing in this biz as an affil or paysite owner.
We are all going to have to start building mainstream sites eventually which maybe in the end wont be so bad.
I think if you can build good sites that serve the populace and survive in the meantime till they are successful maybe there is a light.
But in porn as I see it now. It is pretty sad really as a whole.
Yes I make money but will I make money in five years or even two years or will it be dead or dieing still.
Will it be further leveraged down to 100 big sites who give away the whole farm.
I guess it already is. Just a matter of time till noone buys porn or it will take 10,000 unique hits to get a sale and rising..
Actually since I convert at 1 in 1000 to 1 in 1500 still on some stuff, maybe I am just being negative. But that took 15 years of savvy to accomplish. Still i sense the pie went elsewhere (tubes? forums? traffic leveraging required?)
Generally the money does not come easy for most newbs that is for sure. |
The problem is it has taken more traffic month on month to achieve the same number of sign ups, with a few exceptions. While new people were coming online in places which were likely to buy it was fine. Because the growth made up and more for the drop of sales per 1,000. Today that growth in online connections in the Western World has slowed down. Then there are Tubes and piracy to take into the equation.
So yes you can still get sales if you have enough traffic, but that is one man's gain and another man's loss. Often the man gaining is doing so by giving away more free porn which in turn means a lowering of the sales per 1,000.
Now a few sites who started out on the right route can withstand this trend, like Met Art, they started with a very good standard and got better. They can afford to add great new content that beats others and keep members. The rest even in the golden days of easy money either couldn't or wouldn't compete with offline porn to get the best.
It's no secret we could earn $3,000 from a single set, minimum on a
Readers Wives" set like these ones was $300 from magazines only. Sometimes a set would sell for $1,000 because an editor thought the girl was super hot. Then we got to keep the set and sell it out on the stores.
The money on a BG or GG set was higher, if shot right.
This isn't just me, it's the same for most offline shooters of any good and lets face it according to most here I'm crap.
Now then which site or program could compete with these prices and which one did? Then think of 2-5 sets or videos a day as updates. This is what most sites face. So the members realised if they stayed a member, they would get a little bit of new stuff every day, much like what they had seen for a month or two and a better way was to move on and for $30 get access to a brand new site full of new content.
Or for the wary, compile a list of their favorite sites, stay a month or two, see all the new stuff and then move onto the next in their list. And go around until the end of the list, then back to the start. Yes a few members stayed on, but who has an
average of more than 3 months in a mainstream niche?
As you predict there's little that will turn it around. It's too late.
Aden I'm not having a dig at you, rather the business today. When was the last time you were paid $3,000 to shoot a solo girl set? Yes today the market is gutted. 5 years ago that was normal. Selling a set from the stores 10 times at $300 was normal and low, then add the video, then see signature. Few paysites could compete with that level of costs.