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Old 12-25-2011, 10:34 PM  
MetaMan
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Originally Posted by barcodes View Post
A lot of mainstream places will ask for at least 20% up front. I think the studio I work for asks for half up front. There have been more than a few clients that spend months asking for changes, then disappearing, then wanting to redo the stuff because they had a new vision, etc., disappear, more changes. Some people approve shit without showing the boss then we have to redo it lmfao. I am not saying you did that, just explaining why we now charge for a part of it up front.

It almost sounds like the designer you got stuck with is green. When I first started designing I took shit personally. After a while though, you should realize you are working towards someone else's vision, not your own. Nowdays, even if I felt someone butchered my original work, I can brush it off. It just wont go into my portfolio lol.

Did you sign a contract that mentioned the fee was non refundable? Maybe you can negotiate them into giving you some of it back. If there are parts of the flash that you like, maybe you can talk them into giving you the fla and moving on to someone else. Even if you get the job finished, you should try to get that fla file. Did you sign off on any part of the flash design? That may give you some leverage if you didn't.

I am curious to see what the flash banner looks like but I am assuming since its mainstream you won't want to link anything on here.

Sorry you got fucked man, I hope you can work it out with them.
I can tell you're a professional. I've been through the same stuff in my career, now it is never personal. I just want things done properly.

He would get all uppity telling ME what it should be like. Having the initial agreed concept completely ignored was just insane to me. I know designing can be tough with lots of changes etc.

I agreed to the new concept, but only after we were already over schedule and it was becoming clear what we originally agreed on would not be done. So i was just trying to salvage things.

If you saw the banners you would see the huge lack of professionalism. Small hard to read fonts, To fast of frames you cant read. It makes me think the owners are just as clueless. I have heard they spend a lot of time/money doing their portfolio then try to use that as leverage and churn through clients. I have designed for over a decade now for media sites and for my own networks. So i know exactly what quality of work I should be looking at.

Id hate to see them working with someone who is not a full blown webmaster and the crap they probably get away with.

I sadly cannot post it here as it is mainstream. No contracts were signed which is my mistake. The idea about the fla is spot on also. Just the only problem is it was done for christmas which is now passed. I appreciate your insight.

Last edited by MetaMan; 12-25-2011 at 10:39 PM..
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