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Originally Posted by mynameisjim
You base that on what, a guess? You're the one starting the threads claiming to know the future and have all the answers, so the burden of proof is on you.
You should realize that it's not about the absolute dollar amount when it comes to what HBO spends on production, it's what the relation that is to their income compared to a porn site. Just saying that HBO spends more on production proves nothing and shows you either have little formal business knowledge or you are being disingenuous in your argument.
Google HBOs operating expenses and the revenue they generate and then compare it to a known porn site's numbers and tell me which one is overcharging based on income related to operating expenses. I bet you will find they are either very close, or the porn site actually has operating expenses as a higher percentage of their income than HBO.
Once again, you are the one claiming to know everything, so the burden of proof is on you to prove it. There is no question that people are buying porn membership in smaller numbers. But just based on the stats, a porn membership to a quality paysite is actually a very good value based on other entertainment choices no matter how you slice the numbers. Of course, I'm talking about a quality paysite, like an FTV Girls, Met Art, etc,. with years worth of videos available for the price of $30.
Once again, you may be right with whatever secret sites you are working on to make money. But to call membership based entertainment services old fashioned is incorrect based on the behavior of customers and the fact that most every American is paying for at least one monthly based entertainment option. And calling a porn membership to a quality paysite a poor value is also incorrect based on the numbers.
Bottom line, people are buying less porn because of piracy and the fact that it's now available for free, it has nothing to do with it being overpriced.
BTW, I'm not defending the porn industry. I got into this business when the tubes were already here, so I never saw the glory days and I've also never seen a decline in sales because I started during the piracy era. Not to mention, unlike most webmasters here, I made money before porn, porn wasn't the first thing I made money doing. So if it ever stopped being profitable, I would just leave. My point is that I'm not defending the porn paysite model or trying to hold on to the old days since I was never here for any of that, I'm just trying to make sure the argument is at least accurate.
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In regards to your HBO comment, I never felt like pouring over their books. NetFlix on the other hand, the amount of money they were projected to spend just on licensing content in 2012 is about $90 per streaming customer not counting operating expenses. I can find no data on what they spent this year, was 10% of that amount in 2010.
Also, I never said that people will not spend $30 per month. However, most here (and you've made the same argument) is that the entire industry would be OK without piracy. FTV girls will always get some members at $30, so will niche sites that can't be easily reproduced. What you will not see is 10,000 paysites all commanding $30 per month from their users at this point. FTV has value, some random girls getting fucked site does as well but I'll be damned if it's $30 per month.
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