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Originally Posted by joshgirls
i'm struggling to agree with you, not because i know the facts, but because your facts are all over the place.
like in step 1, you list a number of parties. which of these entites does the law require an accuser to contact...all of them, one of them?
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The law does not require the accuser to contact anyone. The law gives the accuser the ability to contact anyone that does business with the accused (could be a hosting company, the registrar, an advertiser, a biller,...)
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i feel as if your throwing a lot of ideas around, not facts...
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I understand. I have mentioned all kinds of different problems. But that's because this SOPA bill is overly broad.
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& that in reality the bill has not passed, it still needs to be reconciled, passed & signed, & even then it takes time before the details in how it works become clear because the white house has to decide how to enforce it.
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One of the problems with SOPA is that even if the white house does not use SOPA to go after people, anyone else still can. SOPA gives an IP rights holder (or someone who pretends to be an IP rights holder) the ability to take down sites without any intervention of the courts. Under SOPA (as described by those pushing SOPA), it's the accused who will have to take things to court.
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as for me i think its about time the ISPs get the power to prevent piracy sites from moving over the web. only ISPs have the power to throttle this shit because they can see everything that goes through their pipes. considering the giant amount of commerce being destroyed by piracy, some kind of policing of the web is necessary & proper. i cant really assess that the law is overkill until the facts come out.
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Well, SOPA isn't about ISPs, it's about people like you and me, about anyone who does business online, about anyone who runs a website, about anyone who makes a product that can be used to communicate over the internet...
Let me give you an example from a recent Techdirt article:
More Collateral Damage From SOPA: People With Print Disabilities And Human Rights Groups
from the add-them-to-the-list dept
As people wake up to the full horror of what SOPA would do to the Internet and its users, an increasing number of organizations with very different backgrounds are coming out against it. Here's one more to add to that list, from the world of non-profit humanitarian groups.
As Jim Fruchterman, president of the Silicon Valley-based Benetech, explains in his post "Why I am Scared of the SOPA bill":
We write software for people with disabilities as well as human rights and environmental groups. We?re against piracy, and have made commitments to authors and publishers to encourage compliance with copyright law.
So, we shouldn?t have anything to fear from a bill entitled ?Stop Online Piracy Act,? right? Unfortunately, that?s not the case.
We?re getting very worried that our organization and the people we serve: people with print disabilities (i.e., people who are blind or severely dyslexic), and human rights groups will be collateral damage in Hollywood?s attempt to break the Internet in their latest effort to squash ?piracy.? And, if we?re worried, a lot of other good organizations should start getting worried! Fruchterman goes on to explore two major areas of concern. The first is that Bookshare, an online library for people who can?t read standard print books, might lose the ability to raise funds or take subscriptions.
As he points out, Bookshare is legal in the US, but that doesn't stop authors, agents or publishers who don?t know much about people with disabilities or copyright law sending cease and desist letters. At present, Benetech has time to talk people through the law before anything drastic happens. Here's how SOPA would change all that:
SOPA apparently has shoot first, ask questions later provisions. If any single publisher or author of any one of the more than 130,000 accessible books in our library gets antsy, they can send a notice to VISA and MasterCard and say, stop money from going to Benetech and Bookshare. No more donations to our charity. No more subscriptions from individual adults with disabilities.
No need to send us a letter. Or file a DMCA notice. Or do any real research. Just send out a bunch of notices and get all those pirates! Except, we?re not pirates. But, now the burden of proof has shifted to us: we?re presumed guilty, and we have to spent time and money defending ourselves. There are two major problems here. First, the money gets cuts off immediately, jeopardizing the entire Bookshare project. Secondly, Benetech has to spend its limited funds paying lawyers to get the financial blocks removed. That will not only take time, it will hamper other worthwhile projects that Benetech could have been working on instead of fighting to get its revenue sources turned back on again.
It's those other projects that Fruchterman worries about in his second concern. Benetech develops free software to help human rights activists around the world safely record stories of human rights abuse. As Fruchterman points out, if SOPA becomes law, his organization will find itself in an impossible position:
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