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Originally Posted by helterskelter808
Why are you making such a show of denying something that nobody has even accused you of?
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Because you inferred that I frequented groups in which child porn was regularly posted, but unlike you, I didn't.
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Earlier you were speaking on behalf of everyone here, now it's most people here. Can you give a list of, say, 25 people who agree with you that images of naked underage girls are not much of an issue at all?
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Please learn to read. I said that the majority of adult webmasters here make money from hardcore pornography involving girls aged 18 and above, as I suspect, you do as well.
It would not surprise me at all if 90% of my fellow pornographers here are like you and scream and shout at the thought that a few years ago it was legal for British, French, German, Russian photographers to take naked photos of 17 year old girls.
There are a lot of people here like that, and it absolutely nauseates me. Hypocrisy fucking nauseates me. And when someone like you does it so obviously, I'm going to point it out.
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Please quote which "firm views" of mine you think are weird, exactly.
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You're asking me to repeat myself again? It would save time if you learned to read. Your idea that people who make money from videos of dumb 18 year old coke addicts being taken up the ass should have a problem with Russian photographers taking tasteful pics of smiling nude 17 year old girls when IT WAS FUCKING LEGAL NEARLY EVERYWHERE OUTSIDE OF THE USA BACK WHEN THEY DID IT.
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Who have I lectured, exactly?
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Do you think people can't just scroll back a few posts in this thread to where you ranted that a lot of the people on this board thought taking pics of 17 year old girls was o.k. ten years ago 'just because it was legal'. Do you expect people to have a time machine and to be able to see what the laws will be like in 2011? Or should everybody just follow American law?
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I really don't want to see anyone banned, but since you're simply flat out lying now, and making serious false accusations, I'll give you a chance to either back up that lie with a quote from me saying anything even remotely like 'I frequent groups where CP was regularly posted', or you can retract it and admit you're a liar who is remarkably upset at things I said that nobody else seems to have a problem with.
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I'm not making any false accusations. You claimed to know that the child porn (by your God like definition, whether or not it was legal at the time) of one or two companies was being regularly posted on Usenet, and you then stated that you know this because you were a subscriber to usenet. In other words, you stated that you saw these images regularly being posted to whatever groups you were subscribed to. That's the only way to make sense of what you yourself said.
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If you read the thread, fuckwit, you'll see not only did I not say anywhere that I read forums or groups where CP is posted (regularly or not), the first person (between the two of us) to specifically refer to CP was you, and the only reason I mentioned it was in reply to you.
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WTF? You stated that the predecessor of met-art (and another company) were spamming usenet with 'kiddie porn' back in the 90's. You stated that before I posted in this thread.
Again, how did your experience of using Usenet enable you to know that child porn (of a particular company) was being posted there?
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Once you've read the thread again and realized what thin ice you're on, I'd advise you to make your apology.
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No, you're the one who started throwing dirt at people, 'accusing' LOTS of members of this board of doing things which were quite legal back then (for Europeans at least), when it's clear that you were participating in something that was a hotbed of illegal activity (then and now).
I'm not condoning taking pics, or even looking at pics, of 16 year old girls NOW THAT IT'S ILLEGAL. But it was legal back then - you can't judge people a decade ago by the standards of today.
It's witchfinder assholes like you who allow governments to pass legislation that makes our lives impossible. Makes people scared to speak out against, for example, attempts to ban 'virtual cp' under absurdly broad definitions (i.e. 20 year old women with below average size breasts), lest they be seen as 'defending child porn'. And when it's people like you who make a living from porn, and who then admit to frequenting the infamous usenet and being 'spammed' with child porn, then yea, I'm going to fucking speak out.
I honestly couldn't give a fuck if I'm banned. There are probably about 5 good and intelligent people on this board whose advice is worth listening to. I've probably wasted far too much time and given too much free advice to dumb losers like you here already.